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Hey everyone, tweet author here. This was posted in June. In the 2.5 months since that tweet Apple apparently did update Python on Mojave to 2.7.15. Could an a

Hey everyone, tweet author here. This was posted in June. In the 2.5 months since that tweet Apple apparently did update Python on Mojave to 2.7.15. Could an admin take this submission down or flag it? Why this blew up just today is very surprising to me.

Redoubts 8y ago
Did they? % /usr/bin/python -V Python 2.7.10
- based2 8y ago
  Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 6 2017, 22:29:07) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 9.0.0 (clang-900.0.31)] on darwin https://docs.python.org/release/2.7.15/ https://docs.python.org/release/2.7.15/ https://gcc.gnu.org/ https://gcc.gnu.org/ https://llvm.org/ https://llvm.org/ https://clang.llvm.org/ https://clang.llvm.org/
1over137 8y ago
In what version? The newest available to me: 10.14 bet a8 (18A371a) is still at 2.7.10.
- ambivalence 8y ago
  Sigh, looks like you're right. The person who reported the updated version to me in fact saw their homebrewed Python 2.7 as 2.7.15. So I buried a good chance to raise visibility to the issue when it was still on the front page.
  - sslalready 8y ago
    That's unfortunate. For those with enough karma it's however possible to _vouch_ for flagged posts. But maybe it's too late for that now.
sslalready 8y ago
Hi. I found your thread while looking for more information on (the lack of) Python 3 on Mojave. As a developer I’m annoyed with having to install third party packages to get access to Python 3. The software Apple ships is also code-signed, which is important to some organizations which relies on binary whitelisting (e.g. github.com/google/santa). Software from Homebrew or Anaconda are typically not code-signed. I was hoping that perhaps bringing the old Python 2 interpreter up here could lead to more radars for the inclusions of a recent Python 3.x release in the base system.
- kjeetgill 8y ago
  No major Linux distro besides arch ships with 3 as it's base either. For app development 3 is good but the base platform ecosystems are way harder to move.
  - sslalready 8y ago
    Not sure if you would agree to call them major distros but at least Fedora 23 (Nov, 2015) and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Apr, 2018) ships with Python 3 in their base.
    - kjeetgill 8y ago
      Ah,I guessthis ledme to believe that I wasn't. I suppose a better phrasing might be that everything stop ships python as python 2 still. httpss://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FinalizingFedoraSwitchtoPython3
  - narimiran 8y ago
    > No major Linux distro besides arch ships with 3 as it's base either. To add one more entry to sslalready's list: Don't know if you consider Manjaro just an Arch derivative, or not-major (despite being the most popular distro on Distrowatch), but Manjaro also ships with Python3 (to be more exact - Python 3.7) as a base. $ /usr/bin/python Python 3.7.0 (default, Jul 15 2018, 10:44:58) [GCC 8.1.1 20180531] on linux Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>

Redoubts 8y ago

Did they? % /usr/bin/python -V Python 2.7.10

based2 8y ago
Python 2.7.10 (default, Oct 6 2017, 22:29:07) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 9.0.0 (clang-900.0.31)] on darwin https://docs.python.org/release/2.7.15/ https://docs.python.org/release/2.7.15/ https://gcc.gnu.org/ https://gcc.gnu.org/ https://llvm.org/ https://llvm.org/ https://clang.llvm.org/ https://clang.llvm.org/

1over137 8y ago

In what version? The newest available to me: 10.14 bet a8 (18A371a) is still at 2.7.10.

ambivalence 8y ago
Sigh, looks like you're right. The person who reported the updated version to me in fact saw their homebrewed Python 2.7 as 2.7.15. So I buried a good chance to raise visibility to the issue when it was still on the front page.
- sslalready 8y ago
  That's unfortunate. For those with enough karma it's however possible to _vouch_ for flagged posts. But maybe it's too late for that now.

sslalready 8y ago

Hi. I found your thread while looking for more information on (the lack of) Python 3 on Mojave. As a developer I’m annoyed with having to install third party packages to get access to Python 3. The software Apple ships is also code-signed, which is important to some organizations which relies on binary whitelisting (e.g. github.com/google/santa). Software from Homebrew or Anaconda are typically not code-signed. I was hoping that perhaps bringing the old Python 2 interpreter up here could lead to more radars for the inclusions of a recent Python 3.x release in the base system.

kjeetgill 8y ago
No major Linux distro besides arch ships with 3 as it's base either. For app development 3 is good but the base platform ecosystems are way harder to move.
- sslalready 8y ago
  Not sure if you would agree to call them major distros but at least Fedora 23 (Nov, 2015) and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Apr, 2018) ships with Python 3 in their base.
  - kjeetgill 8y ago
    Ah,I guessthis ledme to believe that I wasn't. I suppose a better phrasing might be that everything stop ships python as python 2 still. httpss://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FinalizingFedoraSwitchtoPython3
- narimiran 8y ago
  > No major Linux distro besides arch ships with 3 as it's base either. To add one more entry to sslalready's list: Don't know if you consider Manjaro just an Arch derivative, or not-major (despite being the most popular distro on Distrowatch), but Manjaro also ships with Python3 (to be more exact - Python 3.7) as a base. $ /usr/bin/python Python 3.7.0 (default, Jul 15 2018, 10:44:58) [GCC 8.1.1 20180531] on linux Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>