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So, it’s a false message to save 24 thousand metric tons of plastic from the environment? That continuing to pollute and throw away single use plastics is actua
by chewbacha 8y ago
So, it’s a false message to save 24 thousand metric tons of plastic from the environment? That continuing to pollute and throw away single use plastics is actually the true message?
- scarejunba 8y agoHaha. You think you're soooo clever arguing like this. You got him, didn't you?
- chewbacha 8y agoWell, these all feel like straw men arguments. “Don’t tell people to not pollute because they will pollute more” :eye-roll: It’s like “don’t tell people to treat women with respect because then they will hurt women more” It’s a logical Fallacy and everyone arguing it should be ashamed.
- mistermann 8y agoDo you care if there is some truth to it?
- graeme 8y agoYou‘re the one making a straw man argument. If you had read my comment at all charitably, you would have known I was referring to a larger problem than plastic straw waste. Obviously plastic straws create waste. [I dislike them personally and don’t use them] The issue is, though, if people paint straws as a vital cause of such problems as ocean garbage patches, then that sort of messaging can turn people away. If people research and find that most ocean garbage comes from a few rivers, and fishing nets, then they won’t trust people who say ”don‘t use straws, it pollutes the oceans [in a significant way]“.
- mistermann 8y agoThis thread, and many like it, demonstrate what I believe is the root problem in so many of society's problems today: undisciplined/shallow thinking, sub-optimal motivations (winning the argument), and poor communication.