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Well, my whole argument was that while it superficially "feels like" a waltz in some ways, it's clearly in 6/8 because of how the underlying beat is grouped. Th

Well, my whole argument was that while it superficially "feels like" a waltz in some ways, it's clearly in 6/8 because of how the underlying beat is grouped. That's what matters. Just as a sanity check, I decided to look up some sheet music and see how others have interpreted the song. Every single one that I can find notates it in 6/8 (interestingly with some individual measures in 9/8). http://www.musiclassroom.com/partitions/Seal_kiss_from_a_rose.pdf http://www.musiclassroom.com/partitions/Seal_kiss_from_a_ros... https://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0159794 https://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0159794 https://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0078268 https://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtd.asp?ppn=MN0078268 https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/kiss-from-a-rose-satb-a-cappella-digital-sheet-music/20457743 https://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/kiss-from-a-rose-satb-a... https://www.onlinepianist.com/sheet-music/seal/kiss-from-a-rose https://www.onlinepianist.com/sheet-music/seal/kiss-from-a-r... https://www.sheetmusicdirect.us/sheetmusic/song/1000176568/kiss-from-a-rose?redirect=1 https://www.sheetmusicdirect.us/sheetmusic/song/1000176568/k...

greglindahl 8y ago
The overwhelming majority of waltzes are notated in 3/4 with the measures in pairs, because it takes 2 measures (6 dance steps) to do one rotation of a rotary waltz. The two downbeats are equal. The music video on YouTube of Seal performing this song has equal downbeats. If you write it in 6/8 instead, many musicians will emphasize 4 less than 1. I think that dancers knowing music and musicians knowing dance is extremely useful. It changes your opinions about notation.
- roywiggins 8y ago
  It certainly has the feel of a waltz. It's not that hard to make a 6/8 time signature not sound like a waltz (as you say, just hide the second down beat, or move it). But it's very very easy to waltz to the song. Whether it makes more sense to musicians write it 6/8 or not, I have no idea, but it's still a waltz.

greglindahl 8y ago

The overwhelming majority of waltzes are notated in 3/4 with the measures in pairs, because it takes 2 measures (6 dance steps) to do one rotation of a rotary waltz. The two downbeats are equal. The music video on YouTube of Seal performing this song has equal downbeats. If you write it in 6/8 instead, many musicians will emphasize 4 less than 1. I think that dancers knowing music and musicians knowing dance is extremely useful. It changes your opinions about notation.

roywiggins 8y ago
It certainly has the feel of a waltz. It's not that hard to make a 6/8 time signature not sound like a waltz (as you say, just hide the second down beat, or move it). But it's very very easy to waltz to the song. Whether it makes more sense to musicians write it 6/8 or not, I have no idea, but it's still a waltz.