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There is never any proof offered, only blatant assertions. And its working very well as a propaganda point too - now, any time someone questions the powers tha

by mmjaa 8y ago

There is never any proof offered, only blatant assertions. And its working very well as a propaganda point too - now, any time someone questions the powers that be and the way they operate, well .. obviously that person is a Russian troll. The irony in how quickly Americans seem to have picked up this authoritarian control mechanism (propaganda==truth) seems to have been lost on a lot of people. Do they still teach Orwell in schools in America?

anewone 8y ago
They still teach Animal Farm. Remember: Russians are Bad.
vincnetas 8y ago
Current Russian government are pro at playing this "but there are no proof offered" game. Lithuania, where i live, is pretty close to armed conflict in Ukraine where Russian backed (no proofs here according to Russia) separatists are fighting (as in war) to declare independent republics from Ukraine. Crimea (part of Ukraine) was "liberated" by "little green men"[0] and then coincidently decided to join Russian federation. There is no secret that Russian government sponsors internet trolls to push it's agenda [1] I agree that someone might abuse "Russian troll" card but keep in mind that Russian (government) is no saint here. Russians themselves are fine though. And please don't start with "but Americans also do this and that". Im saying here that Russian trolls are real. One use twitter, other use military uniforms without insignia. Depending on situation ;) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_green_men_(Ukrainian_crisis) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_green_men_(Ukrainian_cr... [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/some-russians-see-u-s-investigation-into-russian-election-meddling-as-a-soap-ope https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/...
- mugwort13 8y ago
  This doesn't alter the fact that there is indeed no proof which has been shown to the public. Show us the actual proof or stop claiming it. It is very easy to resolve.
- mmjaa 8y ago
  So, where is the evidence then? Like, actual evidence. Not propaganda, which is what your links are really. Real evidence. Something tangible, which leads to the conclusions being promoted by the propaganda. I'm yet to see any. Like, there is literally ZERO evidence preferred, every single time.

by mmjaa 8y ago

anewone 8y ago

They still teach Animal Farm. Remember: Russians are Bad.

vincnetas 8y ago

Current Russian government are pro at playing this "but there are no proof offered" game. Lithuania, where i live, is pretty close to armed conflict in Ukraine where Russian backed (no proofs here according to Russia) separatists are fighting (as in war) to declare independent republics from Ukraine. Crimea (part of Ukraine) was "liberated" by "little green men"[0] and then coincidently decided to join Russian federation. There is no secret that Russian government sponsors internet trolls to push it's agenda [1] I agree that someone might abuse "Russian troll" card but keep in mind that Russian (government) is no saint here. Russians themselves are fine though. And please don't start with "but Americans also do this and that". Im saying here that Russian trolls are real. One use twitter, other use military uniforms without insignia. Depending on situation ;) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_green_men_(Ukrainian_crisis) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_green_men_(Ukrainian_cr... [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/some-russians-see-u-s-investigation-into-russian-election-meddling-as-a-soap-ope https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/15/594062887/...

mugwort13 8y ago
This doesn't alter the fact that there is indeed no proof which has been shown to the public. Show us the actual proof or stop claiming it. It is very easy to resolve.
mmjaa 8y ago
So, where is the evidence then? Like, actual evidence. Not propaganda, which is what your links are really. Real evidence. Something tangible, which leads to the conclusions being promoted by the propaganda. I'm yet to see any. Like, there is literally ZERO evidence preferred, every single time.