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Not surprised a bit. Usually the reason crime is flourishing in those parts is because there is protection from withing the judicial and executive branches of t

by rdtsc 8y ago

Not surprised a bit. Usually the reason crime is flourishing in those parts is because there is protection from withing the judicial and executive branches of the government. The police and judges are often part of, if not the ones running many of the crime rings. There is also the part where the Ukrainians then went on to blackmail Ieremenko, threatened to extradite him and asked him for a bribe. He paid up. Of course the go-between guy doubled the blackmail price (think big, right?), got his 50% share then forwarded the rest to the intel agency. And then Ieremenko realizes he couldn't be extradited anyway because Ukraine doesn't do that with its citizens! The article then says "the pair fell out when Ieremenko discovered he had been duped". I am surprised they hadn't had a boating accident of some sort, or fell on a knife, backwards a few times.

ffmegpeg 8y ago
> in those parts Not an Ukranian, but boy, does that horse look high!
- onetimemanytime 8y ago
  new account defending the "honor" of Ukraine as a corruption free country. Waste of time, people on HN are likely smarter than 95% of the world population. Did you pay Paul Manafort all the money owed? He really needs it now...
  - askl56 8y ago
    He's not defending the honour of Ukraine or making a political statement about Manafort. He's asserting that the US has more corruption in local police and justice departments than the average American would like to believe.
    - rdtsc 8y ago
      > He's asserting that the US has more corruption in local police and justice departments than the average American would like to believe. He isn't asserting anything though, just throwing one-liners about horses around. Asserting would mean making an actual argument.
throw2016 8y ago
Given the string of banking frauds, rating frauds, international price fixing, rigging and bailouts back home this kind of sweeping statement about 'these parts' paints a black and white picture that minimizes the 'white' in 'these parts' and the 'black' in other parts.
- rdtsc 8y ago
  I didn't qualify or mention anything about US, or say UK. It was about Eastern Europe. "Those parts" meant Easter Europe, sorry for not being more specific. "banking frauds, rating frauds, international price fixing," But since we are comparing things, I'll take banking frauds and price fixing over murder, routine torture, ability to buy your freedom following murder from judges, prosecutors and even DNA lab tester grunts. And by torture I do not mean "we pretended to drop the person on the concrete floor", but putting a gas mask on their head and closing the breathing hole until they are ready to confess. Did you ever feel bombs going off while sitting at home, feeling seemly safe? I have. I was doing homework after school waiting for my parents to come home and the local mafia was trying to kill a rival bank CEO who didn't submit to their "protection", so they blew up his apartment, including 4 other surrounding apartments. I was on the other side of the door in a police station and heard people screaming in pain while being tortured. I saw murderers and rapists getting off with a slap of a wrist. Judges who didn't "get in line" disappearing overnight. I'll take price fixing any day over all that.

by rdtsc 8y ago

ffmegpeg 8y ago

> in those parts Not an Ukranian, but boy, does that horse look high!

onetimemanytime 8y ago
new account defending the "honor" of Ukraine as a corruption free country. Waste of time, people on HN are likely smarter than 95% of the world population. Did you pay Paul Manafort all the money owed? He really needs it now...
- askl56 8y ago
  He's not defending the honour of Ukraine or making a political statement about Manafort. He's asserting that the US has more corruption in local police and justice departments than the average American would like to believe.
  - rdtsc 8y ago
    > He's asserting that the US has more corruption in local police and justice departments than the average American would like to believe. He isn't asserting anything though, just throwing one-liners about horses around. Asserting would mean making an actual argument.

throw2016 8y ago

Given the string of banking frauds, rating frauds, international price fixing, rigging and bailouts back home this kind of sweeping statement about 'these parts' paints a black and white picture that minimizes the 'white' in 'these parts' and the 'black' in other parts.

rdtsc 8y ago
I didn't qualify or mention anything about US, or say UK. It was about Eastern Europe. "Those parts" meant Easter Europe, sorry for not being more specific. "banking frauds, rating frauds, international price fixing," But since we are comparing things, I'll take banking frauds and price fixing over murder, routine torture, ability to buy your freedom following murder from judges, prosecutors and even DNA lab tester grunts. And by torture I do not mean "we pretended to drop the person on the concrete floor", but putting a gas mask on their head and closing the breathing hole until they are ready to confess. Did you ever feel bombs going off while sitting at home, feeling seemly safe? I have. I was doing homework after school waiting for my parents to come home and the local mafia was trying to kill a rival bank CEO who didn't submit to their "protection", so they blew up his apartment, including 4 other surrounding apartments. I was on the other side of the door in a police station and heard people screaming in pain while being tortured. I saw murderers and rapists getting off with a slap of a wrist. Judges who didn't "get in line" disappearing overnight. I'll take price fixing any day over all that.