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> it sounds like they did fix them On what basis? All we have is PR talking points presented, deceptively, as genuine opinions of real employees. That doesn't
by forapurpose 8y ago
> it sounds like they did fix them
On what basis? All we have is PR talking points presented, deceptively, as genuine opinions of real employees. That doesn't seem like evidence.
- danaris 8y agoMaybe the bots have infiltrated HN, too?
- dang 8y agoPlease don't go there, unless you have evidence. Internet discussions don't do well after this card is played. This is in the site guidelines btw: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- darawk 8y agoIf you're accusing them of lying, that's fine. But what you claimed was that these are just talking points "instead of" fixing the issues. So, they are claiming they fixed the issues. Are you claiming they are lying about that?
- darpa_escapee 8y agoPlenty of untrue statements are asserted as fact in good faith and without intention to deceive. Asking for evidence is not the same thing as an accusation of dishonesty.
- darawk 8y agoUm, what? These people are representing themselves as employees of Amazon, who work in these factories. Unless they are lying about that, then they are in a position to know. Therefore, if they are making an assertion and it is untrue, they are lying. This isn't that complicated.
- greglindahl 8y agoIs it possible that two employees at an Amazon facility might disagree about the ideal temperature of the facility?
- darawk 8y agoSure, but whether or not they get bathroom breaks is objective.
- greglindahl 8y agoNo. Different people have different opinions as to whether they get enough bathroom breaks.
- darawk 8y agoYou added a word there. The prior claim was that they didn't get them, fullstop.
- albedoa 8y agoThis is a really weird line to take. Obviously by "rather than fix" he means fix and demonstrate. Otherwise, why is is up to anyone but Amazon to prove that they have fixed the issues? You are misdirecting the burden.
- forapurpose 8y ago> what you claimed was that these are just talking points "instead of" fixing the issues. I didn't say the words you quoted.