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I hate Slack and I particularly despise Gitter. All the communities I had to go on at one point were totally out of service or totally uninterested in helping n
by yeukhon 8y ago
I hate Slack and I particularly despise Gitter. All the communities I had to go on at one point were totally out of service or totally uninterested in helping newbies. I am glad some organizations still use IRC as their main online network.
- movedx 8y agoI used IRC Cloud for some time. Pretty good, actually. Works almost everywhere, nice UI. It's certainly no irssi in a tmux/screen, but it's pretty good. Costs $5/month when I was using it (so close to the same as a VPS or proxy.)
- yeukhon 8y agoIRC Cloud is fine, in the end it's still IRC. I used to use Adium, but now my work VPN is over AWS, so I can't (forget what the actual extension I needed Adium to support). Ever since I just use the freenode web client.
- rane 8y agoRunning a weechat client on a ipv6, nat ipv4 VPS that costs me 3€/year. With weechat you also get a responsive web client for free through glowing-bear.org, so it's quite close to IRCCloud in the end.
- craftyguy 8y agoMy only experience with slack and gitter is through the browser and it 'required' piles of javascript, had no sane keybindings, and the UI was sluggish. They're also proprietary, walled gardens. If that's the future, then here's to 30 more years of IRC!
- dmitriid 8y agoYou’re conflating technology and community.
- ken 8y agoI noticed a correlation here, too. Is it so strange to think that a tool can select or influence its users in some way?
- russdpale 8y agoUltimately, it is impossible to separate those two entities.
- modells 8y agoDesign brought forth, intentionally or not, creates everything but the content of the experience. It's the "view" that people see that creates most of the UX.
- PurpleRamen 8y agoWhat newbies? Users? Devs? Communities serve a purpose and are not for everyone. On slack and Gitter they are often focused on work, on getting things done, so they really don't care about users or new developers and their problems which are unrelated to the project. And this is good, because everyone needs a channel where they can focus on getting things done.
- yeukhon 8y agoYou have no clue what in the world you are talking about. Hashicorp as an example use Gitter as one of the support channels and yet the community response there is poor as hell.
- PurpleRamen 8y agoIs it as poor as your behaviour here? Should I call hackernews now a poor and toxic plattform too?