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How does the memory usage of my Slack clients in any way impact the utility of the tool? Private and public communities that are active, relevant, and directly

How does the memory usage of my Slack clients in any way impact the utility of the tool? Private and public communities that are active, relevant, and directly impact my livelihood are on Slack, so I'm also on Slack. I'm also on IRC, Discord, and Telegram. This isn't a zero-sum game.

emilsedgh 8y ago
I'm on all of them. IRC is by far my favorite. Kind of like HN. When someone is commenting on HN I automatically have more interest than eg Facebook vs. Twitter as the primitive experience of HN (Which I personally love) filters out a lot of "noise". There's great communities out there on IRC. Just head to #postgres on freenode and see how helpful they are over there.
yeukhon 8y ago
Because communication should not be expensive.
superkuh 8y ago
The problem is that those communities chose to use Slack. And now they're locked in to a proprietary protocol controlled by a single company with perverse incentives for censorship. In prior years those communities would've chosen IRC. But nowdays everything has to be pretty hand hold your hand for you (ie, host your images, assume you know nothing of how to participate on the 'net by yourself). It is a zero-sum game. And Slack has done the embrace, they done the extend, and they've started the extinguish (by cutting off IRC bridges).
- ryanisnan 8y ago
  Slack is perfect for organizations, whereas IRC is not. And no, we're not locked into anything.
  - Razengan 8y ago
    > Slack is perfect for organizations, whereas IRC is not. Why not? Organizations can host their own IRC server(s). Won't that be better than relying on a third-party's services? And if needed, they can write their own bots, clients, or even their own specific extensions to the protocol.
    - tehbeard 8y ago
      Listen, you want to convince my boss to spend more on the infra. For in house chat w/ drag and drop file hosting, and boost my pay for now having responsibility to manage that, be my guest :)
    - dmitriid 8y ago
      Because the last thing organizations eant to do is host their own infra for a chat, implement their own search for a chat, re-implement the bits, the hooks, the integrations for a chat etc.?
      - adrianN 8y ago
        Hosting things on their own infrastructure is very popular for large companies. They tend to take security a lot more serious that the average startup.
        Spivak 8y ago
        True and that's why hosted services focus a lot of effort on compliance. https://slack.com/security https://slack.com/security
  - ntnn 8y ago
    > Slack is perfect for organizations, whereas IRC is not. How so? > And no, we're not locked into anything. How so?
  - pingec 8y ago
    I wish there was a way to ignore certain users / bots, this is such a pain for me, it makes slack too spammy and noisy for me so I only ever read private messages.
  - honestoHeminway 8y ago
    I know several Open Source community where bots basically provide the whole additional services. PasteBin, Auto-Bug Attaching a IRC-Log to a bug report, Continous Integration Reports.. actually its easier to integrate into IRC at times.

emilsedgh 8y ago

I'm on all of them. IRC is by far my favorite. Kind of like HN. When someone is commenting on HN I automatically have more interest than eg Facebook vs. Twitter as the primitive experience of HN (Which I personally love) filters out a lot of "noise". There's great communities out there on IRC. Just head to #postgres on freenode and see how helpful they are over there.

yeukhon 8y ago

Because communication should not be expensive.

superkuh 8y ago

The problem is that those communities chose to use Slack. And now they're locked in to a proprietary protocol controlled by a single company with perverse incentives for censorship. In prior years those communities would've chosen IRC. But nowdays everything has to be pretty hand hold your hand for you (ie, host your images, assume you know nothing of how to participate on the 'net by yourself). It is a zero-sum game. And Slack has done the embrace, they done the extend, and they've started the extinguish (by cutting off IRC bridges).

ryanisnan 8y ago
Slack is perfect for organizations, whereas IRC is not. And no, we're not locked into anything.
- Razengan 8y ago
  > Slack is perfect for organizations, whereas IRC is not. Why not? Organizations can host their own IRC server(s). Won't that be better than relying on a third-party's services? And if needed, they can write their own bots, clients, or even their own specific extensions to the protocol.
  - tehbeard 8y ago
    Listen, you want to convince my boss to spend more on the infra. For in house chat w/ drag and drop file hosting, and boost my pay for now having responsibility to manage that, be my guest :)
  - dmitriid 8y ago
    Because the last thing organizations eant to do is host their own infra for a chat, implement their own search for a chat, re-implement the bits, the hooks, the integrations for a chat etc.?
    - adrianN 8y ago
      Hosting things on their own infrastructure is very popular for large companies. They tend to take security a lot more serious that the average startup.
      - Spivak 8y ago
        True and that's why hosted services focus a lot of effort on compliance. https://slack.com/security https://slack.com/security
- ntnn 8y ago
  > Slack is perfect for organizations, whereas IRC is not. How so? > And no, we're not locked into anything. How so?
- pingec 8y ago
  I wish there was a way to ignore certain users / bots, this is such a pain for me, it makes slack too spammy and noisy for me so I only ever read private messages.
- honestoHeminway 8y ago
  I know several Open Source community where bots basically provide the whole additional services. PasteBin, Auto-Bug Attaching a IRC-Log to a bug report, Continous Integration Reports.. actually its easier to integrate into IRC at times.