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I tried listening to a 15-tone ET piano piece ones. Sure, maybe I'm not worthy, and too limited in my musical understanding (although I have been a musicians si

I tried listening to a 15-tone ET piano piece ones. Sure, maybe I'm not worthy, and too limited in my musical understanding (although I have been a musicians since the age of 6 and i'm now 43), but it just sounded like a piano out of tune. 12-tet is more than enough to experiment with for the rest of my life

crazynick4 8y ago
Part of it could be due to conditioning but part of it is due to the fact that 15 TET is just another type of compromise, one that actually puts the perfect fifth even more out of tune than 12 TET, even though some of the other intervals are less tempered. I'm sure you've heard about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation Most people brush off the concept because of a lack of accessible music, and because a lot of musicians writing the music, well, let's just say they lack a sense of popular sentiment. I don't think it discredits the theory, which is based in physics. Potentially, tuning intervals by ratios can be used to write the same style of music we are used to (without tempered intervals) just as well as providing harmonies that we don't have access to in our prevalent (Western) tuning system.
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TheOtherHobbes 8y ago
You have been listening to 12-tet literally your entire life, so microtonal music is inevitably going to sound strange. Having said that, 15-tet is pretty rancid. 22-tet can be much more consonant. Try this, which is in just intonation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uZUQqOLyPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uZUQqOLyPQ It's contemporary but still sort-of accessible for many people.
- crazynick4 8y ago
  Yes, also this one, which is for microtonal piano (also in JI): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkaGm8B8CZI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkaGm8B8CZI
- joeminichino 8y ago
  Well. I loved the piece you linked! 22-TET does not sound nearly as dissonant to my ears as 15 does. Thank you for sharing.

crazynick4 8y ago

Part of it could be due to conditioning but part of it is due to the fact that 15 TET is just another type of compromise, one that actually puts the perfect fifth even more out of tune than 12 TET, even though some of the other intervals are less tempered. I'm sure you've heard about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation Most people brush off the concept because of a lack of accessible music, and because a lot of musicians writing the music, well, let's just say they lack a sense of popular sentiment. I don't think it discredits the theory, which is based in physics. Potentially, tuning intervals by ratios can be used to write the same style of music we are used to (without tempered intervals) just as well as providing harmonies that we don't have access to in our prevalent (Western) tuning system.

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TheOtherHobbes 8y ago

You have been listening to 12-tet literally your entire life, so microtonal music is inevitably going to sound strange. Having said that, 15-tet is pretty rancid. 22-tet can be much more consonant. Try this, which is in just intonation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uZUQqOLyPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uZUQqOLyPQ It's contemporary but still sort-of accessible for many people.

crazynick4 8y ago
Yes, also this one, which is for microtonal piano (also in JI): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkaGm8B8CZI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkaGm8B8CZI
joeminichino 8y ago
Well. I loved the piece you linked! 22-TET does not sound nearly as dissonant to my ears as 15 does. Thank you for sharing.