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I didn't suggest that at all. I suggested that it was a possible alternative simply because that's the only way something like that would be considered "officia

I didn't suggest that at all. I suggested that it was a possible alternative simply because that's the only way something like that would be considered "official" still while allowing for any apps to be published. There's no reason for Apple to offer that on their phones since it dilutes the customer experience. Anyone that would care about doing that can still do that via XCode by side-loading the apps. Case in point - where's the competitor for the Mac App Store on macOS? There's not. Users have to do all the legwork themselves. That's literally no different than side-loading your own apps.

throwaway917100 8y ago
Wait What. Steam is a "competitor" to Mac App Store. Homebrew is a sort of competitor to app store. Heck any website which has more that 1 Mac OS "app" is a sort of an "app store ".
kyle-rb 8y ago
>Case in point - where's the competitor for the Mac App Store on macOS? There's not. Users have to do all the legwork themselves. Yeah, double-clicking that DMG and dragging the .app 30 pixels to the Applications shortcut is a lot of work. >That's literally no different than side-loading your own apps. Yup, clicking and dragging is the same as configuring a different machine to properly build and provision.
- dkonofalski 8y ago
  Stop being obtuse. People have to find the software they want first and then download the DMG from somewhere which usually involves ignoring a billion fake "DOWNLOAD NOW" buttons. The App Store is a trusted platform with literally one click find an app and one click to install. You're being purposely disingenuous.
  - kyle-rb 8y ago
    What? First of all my main argument was that installing outside the App Store is much easier on MacOS than it is on iOS. Second: many, many sites host their own DMG downloads, with zero fake download buttons. I don't think searching for an app's website on Google is significantly harder than searching for an app in the App Store (also I'm not sure typing in search terms is "one click", but whatever). I'll admit that using the App Store is slightly less work to install stuff, and somewhat more secure. But from a user standpoint (I use a Mac with one or two App Store apps and dozens of DMG-installer-based apps) it's not a huge difference. And from a developer standpoint, that's not worth 30% of my revenue.

throwaway917100 8y ago

Wait What. Steam is a "competitor" to Mac App Store. Homebrew is a sort of competitor to app store. Heck any website which has more that 1 Mac OS "app" is a sort of an "app store ".

kyle-rb 8y ago

>Case in point - where's the competitor for the Mac App Store on macOS? There's not. Users have to do all the legwork themselves. Yeah, double-clicking that DMG and dragging the .app 30 pixels to the Applications shortcut is a lot of work. >That's literally no different than side-loading your own apps. Yup, clicking and dragging is the same as configuring a different machine to properly build and provision.

dkonofalski 8y ago
Stop being obtuse. People have to find the software they want first and then download the DMG from somewhere which usually involves ignoring a billion fake "DOWNLOAD NOW" buttons. The App Store is a trusted platform with literally one click find an app and one click to install. You're being purposely disingenuous.
- kyle-rb 8y ago
  What? First of all my main argument was that installing outside the App Store is much easier on MacOS than it is on iOS. Second: many, many sites host their own DMG downloads, with zero fake download buttons. I don't think searching for an app's website on Google is significantly harder than searching for an app in the App Store (also I'm not sure typing in search terms is "one click", but whatever). I'll admit that using the App Store is slightly less work to install stuff, and somewhat more secure. But from a user standpoint (I use a Mac with one or two App Store apps and dozens of DMG-installer-based apps) it's not a huge difference. And from a developer standpoint, that's not worth 30% of my revenue.