> Do you think they have janitors on their payroll on full time basis? I don't think so. Absolutely they do. Most (all?) schools in NYC have (at least) a full-

> Do you think they have janitors on their payroll on full time basis? I don't think so. Absolutely they do. Most (all?) schools in NYC have (at least) a full-time custodial engineer and a full-time janitor. And they do a heck of a lot more than mop the floor. >Why can I not see a simple, easy to see employees and budget numbers. Because the NYC Dept of Ed. is one of the largest and most complicated bureaucracies anywhere, simply by virtue of what it does. There are more students in the NYC public school system than there are people in almost every other major city in America. Add to this the fact that each principal has a fair amount of autonomy in how the school's budget is spent, and breaking out costs system wide becomes a much harder problem than it at first sounds. I would also point out that besides janitors, IT staff, etc, there are also a ton of staff who work directly with students but still aren't teachers: para-professionals, social workers, guidance counselors, the list goes on and on.