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Hey, good job conflating a whole bunch of very different aspects to feed your narrative; pretty much guarantees no one can support your position of one.

uxcolumbo 8y ago
Can you expand on this? I'm not quite following.
uhtred 8y ago
I completely support his position so it's at least a position of two. I don't think he has compounded multiple issues at all, animal cruelty is a single issue. People just like to pretend it's more complicated to avoid facing up to the consequences of their actions.
RIMR 8y ago
This is unnecessarily confrontational and aggressive... Nobody is going to support your position because: 1. We don't know what your position is 2. You're a jerk
honkycat 8y ago
False: Pedantic vegans will support OPs position, and feign ignorance at your point because it's convenient for them to pretend killing a severely endangered whale is the same thing as killing one of the 1.5 billion cows on the planet. Don't expect any better either. Outright lies and false equivalences like this are all they seem capable of. They have been singing the same song for a decade and can't pack in the smug enough to realize it's not working. It's like sitting through D.A.R.E. in grade school: We know what you are doing and we see through it. All it leads to is me considering everything that leaves your mouth a lie. But, the vegan movement does deserve some credit: I will say I have been LOVING the `It's an animal right's issue` position vegan groups have been adopting lately. It's a powerful coherent message, is not smug, and speaks to people at face value instead of condescending to them. It's more "MLK Jr." and less "Women and Women First".
- uhtred 8y ago
  But the message is working otherwise there wouldn't be a huge increase in the amount of and interest in vegan food products in the last few years :)

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Hey, good job conflating a whole bunch of very different aspects to feed your narrative; pretty much guarantees no one can support your position of one.

by grumbalina 8y ago

uxcolumbo 8y ago
Can you expand on this? I'm not quite following.
uhtred 8y ago
I completely support his position so it's at least a position of two. I don't think he has compounded multiple issues at all, animal cruelty is a single issue. People just like to pretend it's more complicated to avoid facing up to the consequences of their actions.
RIMR 8y ago
This is unnecessarily confrontational and aggressive... Nobody is going to support your position because: 1. We don't know what your position is 2. You're a jerk
honkycat 8y ago
False: Pedantic vegans will support OPs position, and feign ignorance at your point because it's convenient for them to pretend killing a severely endangered whale is the same thing as killing one of the 1.5 billion cows on the planet. Don't expect any better either. Outright lies and false equivalences like this are all they seem capable of. They have been singing the same song for a decade and can't pack in the smug enough to realize it's not working. It's like sitting through D.A.R.E. in grade school: We know what you are doing and we see through it. All it leads to is me considering everything that leaves your mouth a lie. But, the vegan movement does deserve some credit: I will say I have been LOVING the `It's an animal right's issue` position vegan groups have been adopting lately. It's a powerful coherent message, is not smug, and speaks to people at face value instead of condescending to them. It's more "MLK Jr." and less "Women and Women First".
- uhtred 8y ago
  But the message is working otherwise there wouldn't be a huge increase in the amount of and interest in vegan food products in the last few years :)