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One infers their systems are highly integrated (tax/crime/social/banking/education/gps all unified)

wyldfire 8y ago
Or even as simple as a procedure: (1) search for the applicant on google/baidu (2) if the searches reveal support or sympathy for dissident or seditious activity, deny the visa application.
mlazos 8y ago
One would think, but at the same time knowing the bureaucratic garbage that happens at tech companies (and I would think communist party HQ is a bit worse), I imagine their system is likely a giant mess and it probably took a number of months to get back about the visa.
chrischen 8y ago
It's actually quite surprising how un-integrated US government agencies and systems are.
- kardos 8y ago
  It's not a bug, it's a feature
  - 0x8BADF00D 8y ago
    Decentralization is what most of the founding fathers wished for. It is indeed a feature, and one we must all be vigilant of.
  - chrischen 8y ago
    Yes but it's also the primary source of a lot of government waste (the same type of waste the conservatives are against). I think it makes sense to separate local, state, and federal governments, but there's surprisingly little government data sharing between even federal government agencies, even when there's jurisdiction overlap.
    - kardos 8y ago
      It may be the price to pay in to avoid your government becoming a highly efficient oppression machine
Markoff 8y ago
not that integrated, as matter of fact until last few years and maybe still even nowadays labor bureau database was not linked to Visa EEB database, so i could get work permit on invalid visa although they should be strictly linked i guess they are quite thorough only when it comes down to dissent (though my wife in gov job hit immediately career ceiling after marrying me and everyone around her even newcomers kept growing except her, sure just coincidence /s and we both can't still really publicly say what we want because she has there parents and rest of family)

Or even as simple as a procedure: (1) search for the applicant on google/baidu (2) if the searches reveal support or sympathy for dissident or seditious activity, deny the visa application.

mlazos 8y ago

One would think, but at the same time knowing the bureaucratic garbage that happens at tech companies (and I would think communist party HQ is a bit worse), I imagine their system is likely a giant mess and it probably took a number of months to get back about the visa.

chrischen 8y ago

It's actually quite surprising how un-integrated US government agencies and systems are.

kardos 8y ago
It's not a bug, it's a feature
- 0x8BADF00D 8y ago
  Decentralization is what most of the founding fathers wished for. It is indeed a feature, and one we must all be vigilant of.
- chrischen 8y ago
  Yes but it's also the primary source of a lot of government waste (the same type of waste the conservatives are against). I think it makes sense to separate local, state, and federal governments, but there's surprisingly little government data sharing between even federal government agencies, even when there's jurisdiction overlap.
  - kardos 8y ago
    It may be the price to pay in to avoid your government becoming a highly efficient oppression machine

Markoff 8y ago

not that integrated, as matter of fact until last few years and maybe still even nowadays labor bureau database was not linked to Visa EEB database, so i could get work permit on invalid visa although they should be strictly linked i guess they are quite thorough only when it comes down to dissent (though my wife in gov job hit immediately career ceiling after marrying me and everyone around her even newcomers kept growing except her, sure just coincidence /s and we both can't still really publicly say what we want because she has there parents and rest of family)