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I pay around $1300 for a 1 bedroom apartment. This is a bit on the high side, but I like living in the city center, in summer it's almost European.

tomh 19y ago
Salaries for grads outside of Moscow are probably half that - I think PHP coders in Kharkov, Ukraine for example would be pretty happy with 12-15K. QA positions could be as low as 8-10K. And $1300 for a 1-bedroom in Moscow center...what can I say you got off light. All my friends had to go through realtors for $2K places (2-3 rooms through) near Kitai-Gorod.
- vtx 19y ago
  How about $5K for 2 years experience PHP developer in Dnepr, Ukraine. I work for this now and my motivation is lost completely. May be I will try to relocate. Now i see even in Dnepropetrovsk salary for html coder for $10K and php dev $14K, but they require strong knowledge of all what can imagine, even speaking english. My bad, need better education.
projectileboy 19y ago
$30k + $1300/month rent?? Dang... Are other countries an option for you?
- cousin_it 19y ago
  I lack the determination to pack up and move. :-( But I suspect I'll leave eventually. Don't know where.
apotheon 19y ago
Sounds to me like prime motivation for a startup. If you're not getting paid much, you have more motivation to try something a little risky to improve your lot in life.
- cousin_it 19y ago
  Hey, my lot in life isn't too bad! :-) I launched a non-profit project that's fairly important to me (http://openphotovr.org http://openphotovr.org) this winter. Now thinking about starting something else, for money, not sure what exactly.
  - apotheon 19y ago
    The website doesn't work so well for me. It says it requires Flash (even though I have a Flash plugin installed).
    - cousin_it 19y ago
      Thanks. What browser and Flash version? Does this help: http://openphotovr.org/index.html?detectflash=false http://openphotovr.org/index.html?detectflash=false ?
sethg 19y ago
What do people in that part of Moscow tend to pay for food, utilities, taxes, transportation...?

tomh 19y ago

Salaries for grads outside of Moscow are probably half that - I think PHP coders in Kharkov, Ukraine for example would be pretty happy with 12-15K. QA positions could be as low as 8-10K. And $1300 for a 1-bedroom in Moscow center...what can I say you got off light. All my friends had to go through realtors for $2K places (2-3 rooms through) near Kitai-Gorod.

vtx 19y ago
How about $5K for 2 years experience PHP developer in Dnepr, Ukraine. I work for this now and my motivation is lost completely. May be I will try to relocate. Now i see even in Dnepropetrovsk salary for html coder for $10K and php dev $14K, but they require strong knowledge of all what can imagine, even speaking english. My bad, need better education.

projectileboy 19y ago

$30k + $1300/month rent?? Dang... Are other countries an option for you?

cousin_it 19y ago
I lack the determination to pack up and move. :-( But I suspect I'll leave eventually. Don't know where.

apotheon 19y ago

Sounds to me like prime motivation for a startup. If you're not getting paid much, you have more motivation to try something a little risky to improve your lot in life.

cousin_it 19y ago
Hey, my lot in life isn't too bad! :-) I launched a non-profit project that's fairly important to me (http://openphotovr.org http://openphotovr.org) this winter. Now thinking about starting something else, for money, not sure what exactly.
- apotheon 19y ago
  The website doesn't work so well for me. It says it requires Flash (even though I have a Flash plugin installed).
  - cousin_it 19y ago
    Thanks. What browser and Flash version? Does this help: http://openphotovr.org/index.html?detectflash=false http://openphotovr.org/index.html?detectflash=false ?

sethg 19y ago

What do people in that part of Moscow tend to pay for food, utilities, taxes, transportation...?