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Have you read the Commons Clause license? Do you understand it well enough to back up those absurd claims you're making? People see "oh it's not OSI-approved"

Have you read the Commons Clause license? Do you understand it well enough to back up those absurd claims you're making? People see "oh it's not OSI-approved" and just de-facto assume it's the end of the world. Redis is an amazing piece of open source, BSD software and you're taking a huge dump on it and its author for not complying to your wishes. Friend, have you done for open source even 1/10th of what Antirez and the Redis project have? Honestly, this whole thread. I remember instances of people finding out about major figures in open source burning out, turning to drugs or even killing themselves and being all like "oh, this was so preventable". Prevent now. Stop behaving like this towards people.

quotemstr 8y ago
Your comment is not productive. It attempts to substitute emotion, misplaced empathy, and ultimately social shaming in place of a discussion of the linguistic and economic issues that this Redis affair is surfacing. Your post amounts to a ban on criticism, on made on the grounds that it might make people feel bad. It's an attempt to end discussion, not further it. Much like proprietary software licensing, this approach has been tried many times before and has seen limited success.
- scrollaway 8y ago
  Nonsense. I don't have a problem with people criticizing Commons Clause, I have a problem with people acting like Antirez & redis labs are the worst people on earth for choosing it, when they've in fact contributed so much to open source. You know what's not productive? Lacking empathy. Lacking tact. Lacking decency. You wanna have a discussion on Commons Clause, there's a perfectly respectable thread two posts over on Drew DeVault's blog post.
  - quotemstr 8y ago
    > I don't have a problem with people criticizing Commons Clause Okay, but... > You wanna have a discussion on Commons Clause, there's a perfectly respectable thread two posts over ... you do, evidently, have a problem with discussing the Commons Cause: you want to sequester this discussion into its own thread despite the Commons Clause very much on-topic here. You are attempting to smear critics of Redis's use of the Commons Clause by claiming that criticism amounts to treating CC's proponents like "the worst people on earth". This tactic does not lead to the kind of discussion that enlightens or convinces. It lacks tact and has no place here.
    - scrollaway 8y ago
      My post meant to say that there's reasonable discussion out there I don't have a problem with. Your post however, I have a problem with, as with the tone of many people in this thread. It's inappropriate and it is the tone I've seen of people who have driven various open source maintainers to burnout and much worse. So yeah, I have a fricking problem with that.
- JeremyBanks 8y ago
  Weak dodge.
dang 8y ago
Would you please stop posting to HN in the flamewar style? It lowers the discussion and evokes worse from others. We're trying to do better than that here, and I feel like we've asked you this many times already. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

quotemstr 8y ago

Your comment is not productive. It attempts to substitute emotion, misplaced empathy, and ultimately social shaming in place of a discussion of the linguistic and economic issues that this Redis affair is surfacing. Your post amounts to a ban on criticism, on made on the grounds that it might make people feel bad. It's an attempt to end discussion, not further it. Much like proprietary software licensing, this approach has been tried many times before and has seen limited success.

scrollaway 8y ago
Nonsense. I don't have a problem with people criticizing Commons Clause, I have a problem with people acting like Antirez & redis labs are the worst people on earth for choosing it, when they've in fact contributed so much to open source. You know what's not productive? Lacking empathy. Lacking tact. Lacking decency. You wanna have a discussion on Commons Clause, there's a perfectly respectable thread two posts over on Drew DeVault's blog post.
- quotemstr 8y ago
  > I don't have a problem with people criticizing Commons Clause Okay, but... > You wanna have a discussion on Commons Clause, there's a perfectly respectable thread two posts over ... you do, evidently, have a problem with discussing the Commons Cause: you want to sequester this discussion into its own thread despite the Commons Clause very much on-topic here. You are attempting to smear critics of Redis's use of the Commons Clause by claiming that criticism amounts to treating CC's proponents like "the worst people on earth". This tactic does not lead to the kind of discussion that enlightens or convinces. It lacks tact and has no place here.
  - scrollaway 8y ago
    My post meant to say that there's reasonable discussion out there I don't have a problem with. Your post however, I have a problem with, as with the tone of many people in this thread. It's inappropriate and it is the tone I've seen of people who have driven various open source maintainers to burnout and much worse. So yeah, I have a fricking problem with that.
JeremyBanks 8y ago
Weak dodge.

dang 8y ago

Would you please stop posting to HN in the flamewar style? It lowers the discussion and evokes worse from others. We're trying to do better than that here, and I feel like we've asked you this many times already. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html