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PSUV really needs to replace Maduro with someone more competent.

23443463453 8y ago
Ah, yes, the mythical competent socialist. What is it with people that they support the theft of things from some in order to give it to others. That's slavery, no matter whether you think someone else deserves the fruits of of others' labor more or not. It's a vile system no matter whether it's called socialism, democratic socialism, national socialism, communism, progressivism, liberalism, it's vile and heinous.
alacombe 8y ago
Why would you blame the head of the system rather than the underlying ideology ?
- SllX 8y ago
  Regardless of which you blame, if you intend to change ideologies (not saying Venezuela will), then you take out the head of the current system.
  - roenxi 8y ago
    Clarifying the mechanism here - a sign that the ideology has changed is that the head of state changes. The Head of State generally has a substantial power base in the system in order to hold their seat. If they are ousted, it is a sign their power base has waned and the system changed.
    - cryptonector 8y ago
      But changing the head is not sufficient to change the system.
- prolikewh0a 8y ago
  What underlying ideology? Socialism? There's nothing that says socialism or some form of it can't work.
  - tartuffe78 8y ago
    How many times do countries have to collapse before we can be sure?
    - Maybestring 8y ago
      This would be a better argument if a major world power hadn't actively undermined all attempts at socialism.
      - antidesitter 8y ago
        To be clear, are you saying the United States was responsible for socialism’s failures?
        Maybestring 8y ago
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in... See the cold war era for a quick rundown of US interference with socialist governments. I'm saying... when the US instigates and funds a civil war in country X, you can't then say X's government lost power because of their economic policies.
        antidesitter 8y ago
        That's dodging the question. Do you deny the connection between socialist policies and their economic consequences?
    - tomjakubowski 8y ago
      Clock's been ticking for a long while now on Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland. When will you give up waiting for these socialist states to collapse?

Ah, yes, the mythical competent socialist. What is it with people that they support the theft of things from some in order to give it to others. That's slavery, no matter whether you think someone else deserves the fruits of of others' labor more or not. It's a vile system no matter whether it's called socialism, democratic socialism, national socialism, communism, progressivism, liberalism, it's vile and heinous.

alacombe 8y ago

Why would you blame the head of the system rather than the underlying ideology ?

SllX 8y ago
Regardless of which you blame, if you intend to change ideologies (not saying Venezuela will), then you take out the head of the current system.
- roenxi 8y ago
  Clarifying the mechanism here - a sign that the ideology has changed is that the head of state changes. The Head of State generally has a substantial power base in the system in order to hold their seat. If they are ousted, it is a sign their power base has waned and the system changed.
  - cryptonector 8y ago
    But changing the head is not sufficient to change the system.
prolikewh0a 8y ago
What underlying ideology? Socialism? There's nothing that says socialism or some form of it can't work.
- tartuffe78 8y ago
  How many times do countries have to collapse before we can be sure?
  - Maybestring 8y ago
    This would be a better argument if a major world power hadn't actively undermined all attempts at socialism.
    - antidesitter 8y ago
      To be clear, are you saying the United States was responsible for socialism’s failures?
      - Maybestring 8y ago
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in... See the cold war era for a quick rundown of US interference with socialist governments. I'm saying... when the US instigates and funds a civil war in country X, you can't then say X's government lost power because of their economic policies.
        antidesitter 8y ago
        That's dodging the question. Do you deny the connection between socialist policies and their economic consequences?
  - tomjakubowski 8y ago
    Clock's been ticking for a long while now on Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Finland. When will you give up waiting for these socialist states to collapse?