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What about the people that are currently being driven around Arizona by Waymo's cars with no person sitting in the driver's seat? Do those rides not count? htt

by howeyc 8y ago

What about the people that are currently being driven around Arizona by Waymo's cars with no person sitting in the driver's seat? Do those rides not count? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-07-31/inside-the-life-of-waymo-s-driverless-test-family https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-07-31/inside-th...

aphextron 8y ago
>What about the people that are currently being driven around Arizona by Waymo's cars with no person sitting in the driver's seat? Do those rides not count? You have to remember that Phoenix was specifically chosen as the number one place on earth that is most friendly to autonomous driving, for a lot of reasons. The problems with autonomy discussed in this article are exactly what will make the transition to operating in a place like Boston incredibly harder, if not impossible.
- thatswrong0 8y ago
  This article doesn't really discuss, in any reasonable depth, the problems with AI. Its primary example of self-driving car's failure to perform as promised was the Uber incident, and we all know that the Uber incident was most likely the fault of Uber's reckless engineering practices rather than some fundamental issue with self-driving cars in general. Self-driving cars seem to work reasonable well in Phoenix. That's already miles better than this article is portraying the situation. No one who has been really paying attention would think that we're immediately going to from no self driving cars to self-driving cars that work in all situations. Getting them working in inclement weather will just be another iterative step.
  - derekp7 8y ago
    I really think that once self driving proves itself on interstate highways in sunny weather areas, that the transition to other places will have to include additional technology such as beacons that get installed along the roads. Then self driving will only be turned on when those beacons are available.
greeneggs 8y ago
Aside from a few one-off demos, those rides all have a person sitting in the driver's seat. Their first demo ride without a driver was in October 2015. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/blind-man-sets-out-alone-in-googles-driverless-car/2016/12/13/f523ef42-c13d-11e6-8422-eac61c0ef74d_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/bli...

by howeyc 8y ago

aphextron 8y ago

>What about the people that are currently being driven around Arizona by Waymo's cars with no person sitting in the driver's seat? Do those rides not count? You have to remember that Phoenix was specifically chosen as the number one place on earth that is most friendly to autonomous driving, for a lot of reasons. The problems with autonomy discussed in this article are exactly what will make the transition to operating in a place like Boston incredibly harder, if not impossible.

thatswrong0 8y ago
This article doesn't really discuss, in any reasonable depth, the problems with AI. Its primary example of self-driving car's failure to perform as promised was the Uber incident, and we all know that the Uber incident was most likely the fault of Uber's reckless engineering practices rather than some fundamental issue with self-driving cars in general. Self-driving cars seem to work reasonable well in Phoenix. That's already miles better than this article is portraying the situation. No one who has been really paying attention would think that we're immediately going to from no self driving cars to self-driving cars that work in all situations. Getting them working in inclement weather will just be another iterative step.
- derekp7 8y ago
  I really think that once self driving proves itself on interstate highways in sunny weather areas, that the transition to other places will have to include additional technology such as beacons that get installed along the roads. Then self driving will only be turned on when those beacons are available.

greeneggs 8y ago

Aside from a few one-off demos, those rides all have a person sitting in the driver's seat. Their first demo ride without a driver was in October 2015. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/blind-man-sets-out-alone-in-googles-driverless-car/2016/12/13/f523ef42-c13d-11e6-8422-eac61c0ef74d_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/bli...