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For you that's perfect, but for others, between city pollution, traffic and plain GHG emissions, how perfect is that ?

product50 8y ago
Please stop making such ignorant comments. You may not realize it but a lot of folks have families and are on a schedule dropping off and picking up their kids - where driving cars/ride sharing is often the most practical way of commuting. Just because you have been able to find a place near to your office or have been able to plan your commute near train stations/shuttle stops doesn't mean everyone else can. Many times you have to optimize for other things such as schools, bigger house with a yard etc. and not all those will have great commuting options. Learn to empathize.
- bkor 8y ago
  > a schedule dropping off and picking up their kids - where driving cars/ride sharing is often the most practical way of commuting This is mostly done on bike in The Netherlands. A normal bike supports 2 kids. There's also bikes to transport 4-5 kids. I regularly see those bigger bikes btw. It does take that your country plans things accordingly. Back in the 1960s there wasn't much of a bike infrastructure, though there were loads of cars and car accidents.
  - product50 8y ago
    Yeah - am not talking about Netherlands here. I would encourage to come to US and understand just how widespread things are. You often are working in an office which is 15 miles away from your house. No way you are biking on that regardless of how good your biking infra is.
    - KozmoNau7 8y ago
      Why not? I have had plenty of colleagues over the years who did upwards of 30km bicycle commutes, each way. If your job offers showers and lockers, it's no problem at all, once you've built up the bike stamina after a couple of weeks.
      - product50 8y ago
        Yeah - and while we are it let us all become tri-athletes too and swim to our offices.
        KozmoNau7 8y ago
        You said it was impossible to bike 15 miles to work, regardless of available bicycle infrastructure. I said it is very much possible, and these were middle-aged people, not athletes by any measure. Biking is a very energy-efficient mode of transport, it really doesn't take long before you're able to ride 20 or 30km in a single stretch.
- jessaustin 8y ago
  Relax, dude. Parent comment didn't have anything to justify that sort of response. Besides this almost reads as a parody, bringing up goofy stuff like "I want a bigger house" and "my kids will never ride the bus to school"...
  - product50 8y ago
    You may think it of as a parody but that was not my intention. Also, provide useful inputs that contribute to the discussion vs. just your observation of the nature of the comments. You obviously are not able to relate to the challenges which real families face.

Please stop making such ignorant comments. You may not realize it but a lot of folks have families and are on a schedule dropping off and picking up their kids - where driving cars/ride sharing is often the most practical way of commuting. Just because you have been able to find a place near to your office or have been able to plan your commute near train stations/shuttle stops doesn't mean everyone else can. Many times you have to optimize for other things such as schools, bigger house with a yard etc. and not all those will have great commuting options. Learn to empathize.

bkor 8y ago
> a schedule dropping off and picking up their kids - where driving cars/ride sharing is often the most practical way of commuting This is mostly done on bike in The Netherlands. A normal bike supports 2 kids. There's also bikes to transport 4-5 kids. I regularly see those bigger bikes btw. It does take that your country plans things accordingly. Back in the 1960s there wasn't much of a bike infrastructure, though there were loads of cars and car accidents.
- product50 8y ago
  Yeah - am not talking about Netherlands here. I would encourage to come to US and understand just how widespread things are. You often are working in an office which is 15 miles away from your house. No way you are biking on that regardless of how good your biking infra is.
  - KozmoNau7 8y ago
    Why not? I have had plenty of colleagues over the years who did upwards of 30km bicycle commutes, each way. If your job offers showers and lockers, it's no problem at all, once you've built up the bike stamina after a couple of weeks.
    - product50 8y ago
      Yeah - and while we are it let us all become tri-athletes too and swim to our offices.
      - KozmoNau7 8y ago
        You said it was impossible to bike 15 miles to work, regardless of available bicycle infrastructure. I said it is very much possible, and these were middle-aged people, not athletes by any measure. Biking is a very energy-efficient mode of transport, it really doesn't take long before you're able to ride 20 or 30km in a single stretch.
jessaustin 8y ago
Relax, dude. Parent comment didn't have anything to justify that sort of response. Besides this almost reads as a parody, bringing up goofy stuff like "I want a bigger house" and "my kids will never ride the bus to school"...
- product50 8y ago
  You may think it of as a parody but that was not my intention. Also, provide useful inputs that contribute to the discussion vs. just your observation of the nature of the comments. You obviously are not able to relate to the challenges which real families face.