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To be fair, the jury is still out on whether or more accurately how much of the film is fake. The bigger issue is that the themes and ideas are not any more or

To be fair, the jury is still out on whether or more accurately how much of the film is fake. The bigger issue is that the themes and ideas are not any more or less valid based on whether or not parts are fake. I realize that seems really ambiguous, but seriously go see the film if this subject interests you.

lotusleaf1987 16y ago
The film is not staged or really fake per se, all the scenes are 'real' in that they happened but what I think is the point is that Thierry is not a true artist in the sense that he himself paints or illustrates--he has hired help, he's a business. I think the movie goes to great lengths to hint (its motif) and show how 'perceived power creates real power' think about the scene where Banksy shows the money he printed with Princess Diana is spent like real money, about Shepherd Fairey's quote that I just mentioned above, how Thierry talks about how he took ordinary clothes and called them vintage and bought piles of them for $50 and turned around and sold them for $5000. Then look at the scene where they are getting quotes from the people at the art shows, everyone is made to look like a lemming and an idiot. They say things that have zero meaning and think they are being so smart. Why did he show the quotes from people who would look smart or have something to say? It's the stuff that's left out that matters most.
- goatforce5 16y ago
  Thierry is not a true artist in the sense that he himself paints or illustrates--he has hired help, he's a business Most successful artists have hired help. Banksy didn't print the Diana banknotes, and he probably doesn't construct his installation pieces. He's not the one painting the elephants or putting the chicken nuggets in cages. He might be standing nearby with a can of lager and laughing, but it's safe to assume a lot of his work is around conceptualising the ideas that end up with his name on them. Ooooh! Conceptual art! (And that's not to diminish his work - I utterly love Banksy. I bought a print and some other bits and pieces of his at the first show he ever did. In ROI terms it's probably the best investment i'll ever make. And, no: i'm not willing to sell any of it.) Someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think the Chapman Brothers consturcted Hell, or Damien Hurst glued the diamonds to the skull, etc., etc. Even the masters had studios of apprentices doing the grunt work, right?

lotusleaf1987 16y ago

The film is not staged or really fake per se, all the scenes are 'real' in that they happened but what I think is the point is that Thierry is not a true artist in the sense that he himself paints or illustrates--he has hired help, he's a business. I think the movie goes to great lengths to hint (its motif) and show how 'perceived power creates real power' think about the scene where Banksy shows the money he printed with Princess Diana is spent like real money, about Shepherd Fairey's quote that I just mentioned above, how Thierry talks about how he took ordinary clothes and called them vintage and bought piles of them for $50 and turned around and sold them for $5000. Then look at the scene where they are getting quotes from the people at the art shows, everyone is made to look like a lemming and an idiot. They say things that have zero meaning and think they are being so smart. Why did he show the quotes from people who would look smart or have something to say? It's the stuff that's left out that matters most.

goatforce5 16y ago
Thierry is not a true artist in the sense that he himself paints or illustrates--he has hired help, he's a business Most successful artists have hired help. Banksy didn't print the Diana banknotes, and he probably doesn't construct his installation pieces. He's not the one painting the elephants or putting the chicken nuggets in cages. He might be standing nearby with a can of lager and laughing, but it's safe to assume a lot of his work is around conceptualising the ideas that end up with his name on them. Ooooh! Conceptual art! (And that's not to diminish his work - I utterly love Banksy. I bought a print and some other bits and pieces of his at the first show he ever did. In ROI terms it's probably the best investment i'll ever make. And, no: i'm not willing to sell any of it.) Someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think the Chapman Brothers consturcted Hell, or Damien Hurst glued the diamonds to the skull, etc., etc. Even the masters had studios of apprentices doing the grunt work, right?