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This is really interesting. Would anyone have a link into more information as to how they are making this happen behind the scenes? How is this different from w

This is really interesting. Would anyone have a link into more information as to how they are making this happen behind the scenes? How is this different from wine?

flafla2 8y ago
Here are the details from Valve's announcement post [0]: [begin quote] Q: What is Proton exactly? How does it differ from normal Wine? Who worked on it? Proton is a tool distribution based on a modified version of Wine. The included improvements to Wine have been designed and funded by Valve, in a joint development effort with CodeWeavers. Here are some examples of what we've been working on together since 2016: - vkd3d[source.winehq.org], the Direct3D 12 implementation based on Vulkan - The OpenVR and Steamworks native API bridges - Many wined3d performance and functionality fixes for Direct3D 9 and Direct3D 11 - Overhauled fullscreen and gamepad support - The "esync[github.com]" patchset, for multi-threaded performance improvements Modifications to Wine are submitted upstream if they're compatible with the goals and requirements of the larger Wine project; as a result, Wine users have been benefiting from parts of this work for over a year now. The rest is available as part of our source code repository for Proton and its modules. In addition to that, we've been supporting the development of DXVK[github.com], the Direct3D 11 implementation based on Vulkan; the nature of this support includes: - Employing the DXVK developer in our open-source graphics group since February 2018 - Providing direct support from our open-source graphics group to fix Mesa driver issues affecting DXVK, and provide prototype implementations of brand new Vulkan features to improve DXVK functionality - Working with our partners over at Khronos, NVIDIA, Intel and AMD to coordinate Vulkan feature and driver support [end quote] [0] https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561 https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail...
- kbumsik 8y ago
  For more context, CodeWeavers is a company behind CrossOver, a proprietary software based on Wine. It is also a major contributor of Wine Project too.
  - justaj 8y ago
    In what way is CrossOver proprietary? You can download its sourcecode here: https://www.codeweavers.com/products/more-information/source https://www.codeweavers.com/products/more-information/source
  - shmerl 8y ago
    The primary contributor I'd say.
- gpderetta 8y ago
  People were speculating for a while that someone was financing DXVK; it seems that, at least since the beginning of the year, they were right.
  - bisby 8y ago
    The dev commented on reddit that once he got Nier into a working state, Valve contacted him.
mackal 8y ago
In addition to what someone copied and pasted, some python scripts to make sure everything is excuted right. I do need to look into it more though :P
dmead 8y ago
For what it's worth, this seems reminiscent of other wine distributions like crossover office (for office) or cedega (for games)
- filmor 8y ago
  It luckily has nothing to do with Cedegas approach :)
  - dmead 8y ago
    What do you mean? It's almost exactly the same.. packaging wine in a distribution with a gui to run and configure some specific games...

This is really interesting. Would anyone have a link into more information as to how they are making this happen behind the scenes? How is this different from wine?

flafla2 8y ago

Here are the details from Valve's announcement post [0]: [begin quote] Q: What is Proton exactly? How does it differ from normal Wine? Who worked on it? Proton is a tool distribution based on a modified version of Wine. The included improvements to Wine have been designed and funded by Valve, in a joint development effort with CodeWeavers. Here are some examples of what we've been working on together since 2016: - vkd3d[source.winehq.org], the Direct3D 12 implementation based on Vulkan - The OpenVR and Steamworks native API bridges - Many wined3d performance and functionality fixes for Direct3D 9 and Direct3D 11 - Overhauled fullscreen and gamepad support - The "esync[github.com]" patchset, for multi-threaded performance improvements Modifications to Wine are submitted upstream if they're compatible with the goals and requirements of the larger Wine project; as a result, Wine users have been benefiting from parts of this work for over a year now. The rest is available as part of our source code repository for Proton and its modules. In addition to that, we've been supporting the development of DXVK[github.com], the Direct3D 11 implementation based on Vulkan; the nature of this support includes: - Employing the DXVK developer in our open-source graphics group since February 2018 - Providing direct support from our open-source graphics group to fix Mesa driver issues affecting DXVK, and provide prototype implementations of brand new Vulkan features to improve DXVK functionality - Working with our partners over at Khronos, NVIDIA, Intel and AMD to coordinate Vulkan feature and driver support [end quote] [0] https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561 https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail...

kbumsik 8y ago
For more context, CodeWeavers is a company behind CrossOver, a proprietary software based on Wine. It is also a major contributor of Wine Project too.
- justaj 8y ago
  In what way is CrossOver proprietary? You can download its sourcecode here: https://www.codeweavers.com/products/more-information/source https://www.codeweavers.com/products/more-information/source
- shmerl 8y ago
  The primary contributor I'd say.
gpderetta 8y ago
People were speculating for a while that someone was financing DXVK; it seems that, at least since the beginning of the year, they were right.
- bisby 8y ago
  The dev commented on reddit that once he got Nier into a working state, Valve contacted him.

mackal 8y ago

In addition to what someone copied and pasted, some python scripts to make sure everything is excuted right. I do need to look into it more though :P

dmead 8y ago

For what it's worth, this seems reminiscent of other wine distributions like crossover office (for office) or cedega (for games)

filmor 8y ago
It luckily has nothing to do with Cedegas approach :)
- dmead 8y ago
  What do you mean? It's almost exactly the same.. packaging wine in a distribution with a gui to run and configure some specific games...