>What exactly is your point here? I thought it was obvious: Every individual organism in the natural ecological system, often has a strong incentive to screw o

>What exactly is your point here? I thought it was obvious: Every individual organism in the natural ecological system, often has a strong incentive to screw over the others. This is inherent in a universe where there is a limited amount of matter and energy, inhabited by organisms who can grow in population without limit. Once all the matter and energy are occupied by organisms, the only way an organism can increase its population is by screwing over other organisms for their matter/energy. This is the rule of nature, but not just "trees and animals"-type nature. It's encoded into the very laws of physics which say the universe is limited, but organisms can replicate without limit. This was also the rule of humanity up until the Industrial Revolution. It's just that a lot of people have forgotten it since then.