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> You seem to be assuming that there are only two types of employees in NYC schools - teachers and bureaucrats. There are in fact many types: teachers and burea

by anamax 16y ago

> You seem to be assuming that there are only two types of employees in NYC schools - teachers and bureaucrats. There are in fact many types: teachers and bureaucrats sure, but also janitors & maintenance staff, security, IT staff, librarians, health staff, sports coaches, etc. How about some historical data on this ratio? (I'd agree that the security needs may be higher now, but IT is supposed to reduce the number of people needed and the others should be flat.)

Anechoic 16y ago
How about some historical data on this ratio? Historical data may not be of much use given how much schools have changed in the last 20-30 years with mainlining, foreign-student integration, increases in poverty, ADA, etc. IT is supposed to reduce the number of people needed Heh. IME I've always seen the opposite - computers were supposed to reduce the number of people needed for a task but small business need to hire an IT guy to take care of the system, thereby increasing the payroll. the others should be flat Only if you assume that all else stayed the same, and things clearly haven't.
- anamax 16y ago
  > Historical data may not be of much use given how much schools have changed in the last 20-30 years with mainlining, foreign-student integration, increases in poverty, ADA, etc. The recent mainlining of the "challenged" is just reversing a fairly recent trend towards seggregating them. Poverty hasn't increased, it has decreased - we've moved the line and we're providing much more assistance that we don't count. > Heh. IME I've always seen the opposite - computers were supposed to reduce the number of people needed for a task but small business need to hire an IT guy to take care of the system, thereby increasing the payroll. The NYC school district isn't a small biz.

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> You seem to be assuming that there are only two types of employees in NYC schools - teachers and bureaucrats. There are in fact many types: teachers and burea

by anamax 16y ago

Anechoic 16y ago
How about some historical data on this ratio? Historical data may not be of much use given how much schools have changed in the last 20-30 years with mainlining, foreign-student integration, increases in poverty, ADA, etc. IT is supposed to reduce the number of people needed Heh. IME I've always seen the opposite - computers were supposed to reduce the number of people needed for a task but small business need to hire an IT guy to take care of the system, thereby increasing the payroll. the others should be flat Only if you assume that all else stayed the same, and things clearly haven't.
- anamax 16y ago
  > Historical data may not be of much use given how much schools have changed in the last 20-30 years with mainlining, foreign-student integration, increases in poverty, ADA, etc. The recent mainlining of the "challenged" is just reversing a fairly recent trend towards seggregating them. Poverty hasn't increased, it has decreased - we've moved the line and we're providing much more assistance that we don't count. > Heh. IME I've always seen the opposite - computers were supposed to reduce the number of people needed for a task but small business need to hire an IT guy to take care of the system, thereby increasing the payroll. The NYC school district isn't a small biz.