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heh, that's what you think. Try building anything substantial in one of the languages I named and then going back to java. Ruby programs are maybe a tenth the

heh, that's what you think. Try building anything substantial in one of the languages I named and then going back to java. Ruby programs are maybe a tenth the size, give or take, Python similarly small. Haskell will blow your mind because you basically never use control structures or type declarations. Continuation-passing scheme, smalltalk, erlang... Any of these things will change the way you develop, probably immensely for the better.

juwo 20y ago
can I write a standalone desktop program in Ruby? (I dont know). BTW my feedback on your work http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=17871 http://news.ycombinator.com/comments?id=17871
- omouse 20y ago
  Yes: http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/rubyscript2exe/index.html http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/rubyscript2exe/index.html Next time just Google for "Ruby standalone". Saves me the trouble of doing it for you ;)
  - juwo 20y ago
    You proved my point - for me - better than I could have done so myself :) If I have to google for it and come up with a 3rd party tool, then it isnt part of the language! And FYI, I wasnt writing my comment in complete ignorance nor laziness. I did go to the ror site when I first heard of it here on YC. When I realized it seemed to be a scripting language with a web server, I lost interest. Offline is very important for me/juwo.
    - jaggederest 20y ago
      try python. well supported windowing toolkits. and it doesn't suck.