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This is an oft-repeated platitude that isn't actually true. Do they have some troubling aspects in common, yes, but their differences are so vast that to regard

This is an oft-repeated platitude that isn't actually true. Do they have some troubling aspects in common, yes, but their differences are so vast that to regard them as the same as absurd. https://bothsidesarenotthesame.com/ https://bothsidesarenotthesame.com/

jessaustin 8y ago
I scrolled down. I didn't see anything about war or defense, which is the primary USA screw-up of the last twenty years. There's nothing about The Drug War, which is the primary USA screw-up of the last 50 years. So yeah, they're the same. There was something about "War on Terror". I think they're trying to imply something about civil liberties or something. There were some 2013 links about Guantanamo. Well I'm not going to take their word for it, so I googled "Guantanamo vote". The first sentence of the first link is, "Tuesday's Senate vote was 91-3." Yeah, that's what I thought.
- root_axis 8y ago
  > I scrolled down. I didn't see anything about war or defense, Well you didn't look hard enough, ctr+f "war", but even if that were the case, will you address the litany of issues displayed on that page or are you suggesting that none of those issues matter, so who cares how each party votes? > There were some 2013 links about Guantanamo. Well I'm not going to take their word for it, so I googled "Guantanamo vote". The first sentence of the first link is, "Tuesday's Senate vote was 91-3." What are you talking about? Post some specific links so I can verify what you're saying.
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    I'm saying I have priorities as a voter. I've been watching both heads of the mainstream party long enough to know what they are. A few random links from 2013 aren't going to convince me that my priorities aren't important. The google search was still open in another tab. This is what I was talking about: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/senate-bill-would-ban-guantanamo-bay-detainees-u-s-n460631 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/senate-bill-would-ban-g...
    - root_axis 8y ago
      Everyone has priorities. The point is that both parties are not the same just because you don't care about anything except your own priorities. Most people care about at least some issues listed on that page, you are the outlier.
      - jessaustin 8y ago
        Sure, but even for those priorities which I share with that page it's fairly misleading. Old links, mischaracterized links, cherry-picking procedural votes instead of judging each session of Congress by what got done during that session, etc. Obama could have closed Gitmo at any time, simply by vetoing one of the eight defense appropriations bills that kept it open. In his first two years, he could have also simply asked Reid and Polosi to keep that rider out of the bill.

jessaustin 8y ago

I scrolled down. I didn't see anything about war or defense, which is the primary USA screw-up of the last twenty years. There's nothing about The Drug War, which is the primary USA screw-up of the last 50 years. So yeah, they're the same. There was something about "War on Terror". I think they're trying to imply something about civil liberties or something. There were some 2013 links about Guantanamo. Well I'm not going to take their word for it, so I googled "Guantanamo vote". The first sentence of the first link is, "Tuesday's Senate vote was 91-3." Yeah, that's what I thought.

root_axis 8y ago
> I scrolled down. I didn't see anything about war or defense, Well you didn't look hard enough, ctr+f "war", but even if that were the case, will you address the litany of issues displayed on that page or are you suggesting that none of those issues matter, so who cares how each party votes? > There were some 2013 links about Guantanamo. Well I'm not going to take their word for it, so I googled "Guantanamo vote". The first sentence of the first link is, "Tuesday's Senate vote was 91-3." What are you talking about? Post some specific links so I can verify what you're saying.
- jessaustin 8y ago
  I'm saying I have priorities as a voter. I've been watching both heads of the mainstream party long enough to know what they are. A few random links from 2013 aren't going to convince me that my priorities aren't important. The google search was still open in another tab. This is what I was talking about: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/senate-bill-would-ban-guantanamo-bay-detainees-u-s-n460631 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/senate-bill-would-ban-g...
  - root_axis 8y ago
    Everyone has priorities. The point is that both parties are not the same just because you don't care about anything except your own priorities. Most people care about at least some issues listed on that page, you are the outlier.
    - jessaustin 8y ago
      Sure, but even for those priorities which I share with that page it's fairly misleading. Old links, mischaracterized links, cherry-picking procedural votes instead of judging each session of Congress by what got done during that session, etc. Obama could have closed Gitmo at any time, simply by vetoing one of the eight defense appropriations bills that kept it open. In his first two years, he could have also simply asked Reid and Polosi to keep that rider out of the bill.