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You are kidding right? The average Banksy piece can be sold for way more than the clean up costs (and have been sold in the past on the stipulation that the bu

You are kidding right? The average Banksy piece can be sold for way more than the clean up costs (and have been sold in the past on the stipulation that the buyer "removes" it). Moaning about a Banksy piece on the side of your building would be like moaning about someone coming up and sticking gold to it.

doyoulikeworms 16y ago
You're right and all, and I more or less agree, but it's still private property we're talking about, isn't it? If I don't want someone to stick gold onto my property, I shouldn't have to put up with it. It just so happens that most people are OK with free money, though. That said, I was under the impression that he asked permission first, at least recently?
- Tyrannosaurs 16y ago
  It would make sense that he would, both commercially and criminally, though there are still pieces around London just sat there on walls. Kind of gives the lie to his whole counter culture personality, though I think that status has been questionable for some time now.
- 27182818284 16y ago
  More often than not it seems to popup in interstitial spaces and public areas. For example, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4748063.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4748063.stm
- estel 16y ago
  I think he asks permission when it suits him. Given his profile as an artist, I'd imagine he mostly wants to work on projects of the sort of scale that require permission from an organisation of some sort. I don't think he has an objection to tagging the streets of London still, but his most high-profile works now would be impossible without permission. I'm still impressed he managed to do stuff like his Bristol exhibition with the knowledge of only three staff members at the Museum http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/arts_and_culture/newsid_8097000/8097022.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/art...
- hugh3 16y ago
  Even if he does ask for permission, the whole cult-of-some-guy-who-sprays-crap-on-other-people's-property is only serving to encourage other vandals who consider themselves "artists". If he gets permission before each and every one of his "artworks" then he should come out and be explicit about it so that copycats don't get inspired. And if he doesn't, he should be thrown in prison, and the various city governments and other property owners who have been "blessed" by his work should subpoena (or whatever) the Simpsons producers in order to find out who exactly this asshole is. edit: I wonder how many of the people who defend this guy are not property-owners themselves.
  - justsee 16y ago
    You've demonstrated perfectly the old-grandpa 'get off my lawn position'. However dismissing him as just some guy who sprays crap on other people's property probably just indicates you aren't aware of the social / political messaging he engages in. "Any advert in public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours…You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head…They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs." - Banksy in Wall And Piece He certainly doesn't ask for permission. Look at his "One nation under CCTV" piece: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559547/Graffiti-artist-Banksy-pulls-audacious-stunt-date--despite-watched-CCTV.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559547/Graffiti-arti...
    - hugh3 16y ago
      However dismissing him as just some guy who sprays crap on other people's property probably just indicates you aren't aware of the social / political messaging he engages in. No, I think that just serves to make it worse. Any advert in public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours…You can do whatever you like with it. That's a ridiculous position to hold. By that logic, if I see your face in a public place then I have the right to rearrange your face as I see fit.
      - 16y ago
goatforce5 16y ago
And some councils (Brighton, perhaps?) will go and cover Banksy works on public buildings with plexiglass to try to protect them.

doyoulikeworms 16y ago

You're right and all, and I more or less agree, but it's still private property we're talking about, isn't it? If I don't want someone to stick gold onto my property, I shouldn't have to put up with it. It just so happens that most people are OK with free money, though. That said, I was under the impression that he asked permission first, at least recently?

Tyrannosaurs 16y ago
It would make sense that he would, both commercially and criminally, though there are still pieces around London just sat there on walls. Kind of gives the lie to his whole counter culture personality, though I think that status has been questionable for some time now.
27182818284 16y ago
More often than not it seems to popup in interstitial spaces and public areas. For example, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4748063.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4748063.stm
estel 16y ago
I think he asks permission when it suits him. Given his profile as an artist, I'd imagine he mostly wants to work on projects of the sort of scale that require permission from an organisation of some sort. I don't think he has an objection to tagging the streets of London still, but his most high-profile works now would be impossible without permission. I'm still impressed he managed to do stuff like his Bristol exhibition with the knowledge of only three staff members at the Museum http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/arts_and_culture/newsid_8097000/8097022.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/bristol/hi/people_and_places/art...
hugh3 16y ago
Even if he does ask for permission, the whole cult-of-some-guy-who-sprays-crap-on-other-people's-property is only serving to encourage other vandals who consider themselves "artists". If he gets permission before each and every one of his "artworks" then he should come out and be explicit about it so that copycats don't get inspired. And if he doesn't, he should be thrown in prison, and the various city governments and other property owners who have been "blessed" by his work should subpoena (or whatever) the Simpsons producers in order to find out who exactly this asshole is. edit: I wonder how many of the people who defend this guy are not property-owners themselves.
- justsee 16y ago
  You've demonstrated perfectly the old-grandpa 'get off my lawn position'. However dismissing him as just some guy who sprays crap on other people's property probably just indicates you aren't aware of the social / political messaging he engages in. "Any advert in public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours…You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head…They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs." - Banksy in Wall And Piece He certainly doesn't ask for permission. Look at his "One nation under CCTV" piece: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559547/Graffiti-artist-Banksy-pulls-audacious-stunt-date--despite-watched-CCTV.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-559547/Graffiti-arti...
  - hugh3 16y ago
    However dismissing him as just some guy who sprays crap on other people's property probably just indicates you aren't aware of the social / political messaging he engages in. No, I think that just serves to make it worse. Any advert in public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours…You can do whatever you like with it. That's a ridiculous position to hold. By that logic, if I see your face in a public place then I have the right to rearrange your face as I see fit.
    - 16y ago

goatforce5 16y ago

And some councils (Brighton, perhaps?) will go and cover Banksy works on public buildings with plexiglass to try to protect them.