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Photos aside, can you trust Huawei in the first place in general?

Markoff 8y ago
will after installing Lineage it's relatively safe, but you are too late to party after bootloader unlock page gone, now it's up to finding friendly customer service representative or giving try to DC unlocker which sometimes work even on phones they officially don't support
lancewiggs 8y ago
Would you trust Google more or less than Huawei?
- scooke 8y ago
  Why do people still not get it?? One wants to eradicate your way of life, deeply believing that their way is not just the best way, but needs to be the only way. The company just wants your data.
  - deleted 8y ago
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  - StavrosK 8y ago
    Jeez, you'd think the Red Scare would be a thing of the past, but no, apparently a phone maker wants to eradicate your way of life by selling you phones.
    - dnomad 8y ago
      At this point you really have to conclude that the intense anti-China bigotry here on HN is a deliberate strategy. Hate is who people like scooke are and HN makes every effort to spread and amplify that hate.
      - dang 8y ago
        Please don't post nationalistic flamewar comments to HN, or project the enemy of your view onto the whole of this community. People are simply divided—and they're biting each other's heads off, which is not cool and needs to stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        dnomad 8y ago
        What I find remarkable is how one comment accuses a Chinese company of trying to "destroy" a "way of life" and there is absolutely no consequence, the comment is in no way highlighted as unusual or unwelcome. I know a lot of people who work at Huawei. They are some of the most boring and kind people on the planet. The idea that they are trying to destroy anything is laughable. But my comment which merely highlights the absurdity of the previous comment is immediately flagged. Does this really not seem strange?
        yorwba 8y ago
        > there is absolutely no consequence, the comment is in no way highlighted as unusual or unwelcome. It's flagged and dead, unlike your comment, which is merely flagged. You're replying to a comment dang wrote after https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17808124 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17808124 What else would you like to happen?
    - thecatspaw 8y ago
      honestly I thought he was talking about google
  - bufferoverflow 8y ago
    Really? People get banned from most social media for the wrong think these days, some get fired from work.
  - dang 8y ago
    Nationalistic flamewar is not allowed on HN. Please don't foment it here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- islanderfun 8y ago
  Google 100% more. But the question was trust Huawei.
- gruturo 8y ago
  While I'd be absolutely certain they both spy on me (for various degrees of "spying"), I trust Google to better safeguard the data it collects about me. Huawei is more likely to do a poor job of keeping said data to itself, either intentionally (selling it outright) or by getting hacked. I'm convinced Google wouldn't sell my data - it is immensely more valuable to them if they're the only ones with it. That said, they'd still use it - to target and profile me, and of course I expect them both to share it with the respective governments. Moreover, if I use Google services through a Huawei phone, they both end up with my data, while if I use a google device at least it's just Google. I'm not enthusiastic about either, but, hey, lesser of two evils. (For the record I have an iPhone and try to avoid giving Google too much data about me)
toomanybeersies 8y ago
Someone made the same comment to me the other day. I said "Either it's the Americans or the Chinese spying on my, either way I'm fucked". I feel like it's safe to assume that most consumer hardware is backdoored/cracked by one intelligence agency or another.
- rapind 8y ago
  Do we have proof that's the case with Apple though? Not a fanboy, but I casually remember reading that they weren't willing to sacrifice their security and capitulate to the gov on this point.
pmarreck 8y ago
This shouldn't shock anyone given Chinese cultural attitudes towards honesty: https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/article/1879850/chinese-most-dishonest-japanese-and-british-least-study-finds https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/article/1879850/chinese-most-...

will after installing Lineage it's relatively safe, but you are too late to party after bootloader unlock page gone, now it's up to finding friendly customer service representative or giving try to DC unlocker which sometimes work even on phones they officially don't support

lancewiggs 8y ago

Would you trust Google more or less than Huawei?

scooke 8y ago
Why do people still not get it?? One wants to eradicate your way of life, deeply believing that their way is not just the best way, but needs to be the only way. The company just wants your data.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- StavrosK 8y ago
  Jeez, you'd think the Red Scare would be a thing of the past, but no, apparently a phone maker wants to eradicate your way of life by selling you phones.
  - dnomad 8y ago
    At this point you really have to conclude that the intense anti-China bigotry here on HN is a deliberate strategy. Hate is who people like scooke are and HN makes every effort to spread and amplify that hate.
    - dang 8y ago
      Please don't post nationalistic flamewar comments to HN, or project the enemy of your view onto the whole of this community. People are simply divided—and they're biting each other's heads off, which is not cool and needs to stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - dnomad 8y ago
        What I find remarkable is how one comment accuses a Chinese company of trying to "destroy" a "way of life" and there is absolutely no consequence, the comment is in no way highlighted as unusual or unwelcome. I know a lot of people who work at Huawei. They are some of the most boring and kind people on the planet. The idea that they are trying to destroy anything is laughable. But my comment which merely highlights the absurdity of the previous comment is immediately flagged. Does this really not seem strange?
        yorwba 8y ago
        > there is absolutely no consequence, the comment is in no way highlighted as unusual or unwelcome. It's flagged and dead, unlike your comment, which is merely flagged. You're replying to a comment dang wrote after https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17808124 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17808124 What else would you like to happen?
  - thecatspaw 8y ago
    honestly I thought he was talking about google
- bufferoverflow 8y ago
  Really? People get banned from most social media for the wrong think these days, some get fired from work.
- dang 8y ago
  Nationalistic flamewar is not allowed on HN. Please don't foment it here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
islanderfun 8y ago
Google 100% more. But the question was trust Huawei.
gruturo 8y ago
While I'd be absolutely certain they both spy on me (for various degrees of "spying"), I trust Google to better safeguard the data it collects about me. Huawei is more likely to do a poor job of keeping said data to itself, either intentionally (selling it outright) or by getting hacked. I'm convinced Google wouldn't sell my data - it is immensely more valuable to them if they're the only ones with it. That said, they'd still use it - to target and profile me, and of course I expect them both to share it with the respective governments. Moreover, if I use Google services through a Huawei phone, they both end up with my data, while if I use a google device at least it's just Google. I'm not enthusiastic about either, but, hey, lesser of two evils. (For the record I have an iPhone and try to avoid giving Google too much data about me)

toomanybeersies 8y ago

Someone made the same comment to me the other day. I said "Either it's the Americans or the Chinese spying on my, either way I'm fucked". I feel like it's safe to assume that most consumer hardware is backdoored/cracked by one intelligence agency or another.

rapind 8y ago
Do we have proof that's the case with Apple though? Not a fanboy, but I casually remember reading that they weren't willing to sacrifice their security and capitulate to the gov on this point.

pmarreck 8y ago

This shouldn't shock anyone given Chinese cultural attitudes towards honesty: https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/article/1879850/chinese-most-dishonest-japanese-and-british-least-study-finds https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/article/1879850/chinese-most-...