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How so? Because citizens can vote? Because citizens have some legal protections that don't apply to non-citizens? Doesn't that mean that non-citizens actually h
by baddox 8y ago
How so? Because citizens can vote? Because citizens have some legal protections that don't apply to non-citizens? Doesn't that mean that non-citizens actually have more of a stake in the competence and behavior of the government because they have much more to lose from certain government actions?
- toomuchtodo 8y agoI'm unsure how we can argue this any further. You're arguing "what supports the existence of the concept of citizenship and a sovereign nation". That is the legal framework (across nations) we've agreed upon.
- Aloha 8y agoCulture, history, belief in a common set of values or traditions - Tradition. People ought to have a vested interest in the place they work, and live. I know of no better way to do that than citizenship.
- baddox 8y agoI have no inherent problem with the concept of citizenship, I just point out that it is arbitrary, and more importantly, I don’t think it should be the threshold for the people the government should be expected to protect or support.
- toomuchtodo 8y agoIt is arbitrary, because you have to draw the line somewhere.
- baddox 8y agoHow about people who are not violent criminals and don’t have contagious diseases? That is far less arbitrary.