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as soon as you see nonsense business speak like that you know things are going downhill. see also, netflix, and twitter lately. I really don't know why they b

as soon as you see nonsense business speak like that you know things are going downhill. see also, netflix, and twitter lately. I really don't know why they bother uttering or writing those kinds of words. They contain no information, nobody is fooled by the lie. It is a waste of their time.

sopooneo 8y ago
I thought the same way until I worked with lots of types of people. The vast majority seem to much prefer BS, even blatant BS to honesty that is even the least bit blunt. I think part of it is that since everyone exaggerates, actual blunt truths are assumed to also be a positive spin, which would put their reality in the toilet.
- shoulderfake 8y ago
  Majority of people out there are complete idiots, Im not trying to be rude either. Very few people think for themselves.
  - darkst4r 8y ago
    Hard truth
  - balladeer 8y ago
    I wouldn't call them idiots. They just are not as exposed to the concept of online privacy as a lot of us are. We might be on the other side of table in many other ways, or idiots as you put it. Like the way my doctor friends avoid some OTC drugs that I never even think twice before taking, or some food, or some ready made edibles. I have a friend in textile industry and when he buys clothes it's a whole new level and makes me wonder what the hell I have been wearing so far. It amazes me how he sees through all those "Giza cotton" tag-lines and gimmick features of breathability and what not that are usually followed by a (™). Can we all not learn everything from The Internet? No, we can't and it does not make any of us an idiot.
  - dang 8y ago
    Maybe so, but please don't post unsubstantive comments here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- mistrial9 8y ago
  I disagree -- it is a soporific effect, not a preference. You are essentially blaming the victim here, and that is complicit
GW150914 8y ago
The world is full of people lacking the (to you and I) basic intelligence, education, and sophistication to smell bullshit. The minority that the rest of us represent are too much trouble to bother with anyhow, and our odds of convincing a large enough number of other people of our positions are low. Edit: I understand how what I said could come off as facile or elitist, but there is truth in it. The same empty promises and blandishments that worked a thousand years ago work today, because most people don’t ever learn about their history in any detail. Then there are a lot of smart and educated people who take as the lesson that they can profit greatly by making those same empty promises, and a very few who are selfless and willing to try to convince people to change. The problem is that people don’t want to believe those people, they want to believe the lies. For decades “tree huggers” have been desperately trying to warn people of what is now broadly accepted, our environment is on the precipice of irrevocable harm. As a group they’ve been persecuted, ridiculed, marginalized, and despised because people either didn’t want to believe them, or stood to profit more if they weren’t believed. More people want to believe in the handsome man promising them nice things than the shrill nerd loudly warning them that it’s all bullshit, and admitting that they don’t have all of answers. The people messily and inexpertly trying to hang on to privacy for example, are far less popular and respected than the slick assholes robbing them of that privacy for a dollar. After all, more people want to be a CEO with a jet than the next RTS.
- ethbro 8y ago
  An alternative explanation would be that there's more bullshit in our field, so we get more practice. ;)
- johnny22 8y ago
  If you're stating that, then you're probably one of those people about some topic you don't know about. Can we please not do this?
  - GW150914 8y ago
    I wasn’t talking about lacking domain expertise in a given area, I think obviously. I’m talking about something much broader and universal, but I’m still sorry for causing you offense, that wasn’t intended.
HelloNurse 8y ago
A presumably open source software is held to a higher standard than such marketing-oriented enterprises.

sopooneo 8y ago

I thought the same way until I worked with lots of types of people. The vast majority seem to much prefer BS, even blatant BS to honesty that is even the least bit blunt. I think part of it is that since everyone exaggerates, actual blunt truths are assumed to also be a positive spin, which would put their reality in the toilet.

shoulderfake 8y ago
Majority of people out there are complete idiots, Im not trying to be rude either. Very few people think for themselves.
- darkst4r 8y ago
  Hard truth
- balladeer 8y ago
  I wouldn't call them idiots. They just are not as exposed to the concept of online privacy as a lot of us are. We might be on the other side of table in many other ways, or idiots as you put it. Like the way my doctor friends avoid some OTC drugs that I never even think twice before taking, or some food, or some ready made edibles. I have a friend in textile industry and when he buys clothes it's a whole new level and makes me wonder what the hell I have been wearing so far. It amazes me how he sees through all those "Giza cotton" tag-lines and gimmick features of breathability and what not that are usually followed by a (™). Can we all not learn everything from The Internet? No, we can't and it does not make any of us an idiot.
- dang 8y ago
  Maybe so, but please don't post unsubstantive comments here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
mistrial9 8y ago
I disagree -- it is a soporific effect, not a preference. You are essentially blaming the victim here, and that is complicit

GW150914 8y ago

The world is full of people lacking the (to you and I) basic intelligence, education, and sophistication to smell bullshit. The minority that the rest of us represent are too much trouble to bother with anyhow, and our odds of convincing a large enough number of other people of our positions are low. Edit: I understand how what I said could come off as facile or elitist, but there is truth in it. The same empty promises and blandishments that worked a thousand years ago work today, because most people don’t ever learn about their history in any detail. Then there are a lot of smart and educated people who take as the lesson that they can profit greatly by making those same empty promises, and a very few who are selfless and willing to try to convince people to change. The problem is that people don’t want to believe those people, they want to believe the lies. For decades “tree huggers” have been desperately trying to warn people of what is now broadly accepted, our environment is on the precipice of irrevocable harm. As a group they’ve been persecuted, ridiculed, marginalized, and despised because people either didn’t want to believe them, or stood to profit more if they weren’t believed. More people want to believe in the handsome man promising them nice things than the shrill nerd loudly warning them that it’s all bullshit, and admitting that they don’t have all of answers. The people messily and inexpertly trying to hang on to privacy for example, are far less popular and respected than the slick assholes robbing them of that privacy for a dollar. After all, more people want to be a CEO with a jet than the next RTS.

ethbro 8y ago
An alternative explanation would be that there's more bullshit in our field, so we get more practice. ;)
johnny22 8y ago
If you're stating that, then you're probably one of those people about some topic you don't know about. Can we please not do this?
- GW150914 8y ago
  I wasn’t talking about lacking domain expertise in a given area, I think obviously. I’m talking about something much broader and universal, but I’m still sorry for causing you offense, that wasn’t intended.

HelloNurse 8y ago

A presumably open source software is held to a higher standard than such marketing-oriented enterprises.