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Exactly that. I strongly believe that those who /do/ use drugs like this are self-medicating to escape the seemingly/maybe actually intractable social issues f

Exactly that. I strongly believe that those who /do/ use drugs like this are self-medicating to escape the seemingly/maybe actually intractable social issues for which there is no single easy answer or method of escape. Compared to /trying/ to get a good job somewhere and trying to find housing that isn't outrageously over-priced and trying to more or less win the lottery game that is presently life in western society... it's so much easier to "treat" the issue with a "magic pill"/bottle (or other form of ingesting the drugs). I strongly feel that if this particular drug weren't an option they'd drink alcohol or smoke...

knuththetruth 8y ago
>presently life in western society Let’s be clear, this “kill the poor” precarity is mostly an American problem (maybe to a lesser extent in the UK and Canada). There are huge swathes of western society (i.e. European social democracies) that don’t fall prey to this insane ideology.
- dang 8y ago
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dqpb 8y ago
There is an easy answer though. You do what successful humans have done for thousands of years: - educate yourself - join or form a community that supports each other - fight for your survival like every ancestor in your genetic tree did before you. Life isn't easy. But you also aren't naturally weak. Unfortunately, once you start doing drugs, you risk corrupting the source code of the machine you rely on.
- WilliamEdward 8y ago
  If educating oneself was as easy as you say, there wouldn't be a poverty / education crisis.
  - dqpb 8y ago
    An educational crisis would be "all books disappeared". The failure of people to educate themselves is a cultural crisis.
- WalterSear 8y ago
  This is dogma, not advice.
  - dqpb 8y ago
    That's a thought terminating cliche, not an argument.
    - andbberger 8y ago
      Bro do you even poverty
    - WalterSear 8y ago
      I'm not trying to argue. I'm trying to terminate a cliche.
    - King-Aaron 8y ago
      Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.
- bigphishy 8y ago
  it might be the best answer, but it is not the "easiest" for sure haha
- fzeroracer 8y ago
  Man who has never experienced extreme poverty or the absolute depths of American society attempts to provide easy answer to something he's never been through.
TheForumTroll 8y ago
> trying to more or less win the lottery game that is presently life in western society This is why the "western society" label doesn't fit on the US. Western society isn't like that generally. The US is a huge outlier.

knuththetruth 8y ago

>presently life in western society Let’s be clear, this “kill the poor” precarity is mostly an American problem (maybe to a lesser extent in the UK and Canada). There are huge swathes of western society (i.e. European social democracies) that don’t fall prey to this insane ideology.

dang 8y ago
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dqpb 8y ago

There is an easy answer though. You do what successful humans have done for thousands of years: - educate yourself - join or form a community that supports each other - fight for your survival like every ancestor in your genetic tree did before you. Life isn't easy. But you also aren't naturally weak. Unfortunately, once you start doing drugs, you risk corrupting the source code of the machine you rely on.

WilliamEdward 8y ago
If educating oneself was as easy as you say, there wouldn't be a poverty / education crisis.
- dqpb 8y ago
  An educational crisis would be "all books disappeared". The failure of people to educate themselves is a cultural crisis.
WalterSear 8y ago
This is dogma, not advice.
- dqpb 8y ago
  That's a thought terminating cliche, not an argument.
  - andbberger 8y ago
    Bro do you even poverty
  - WalterSear 8y ago
    I'm not trying to argue. I'm trying to terminate a cliche.
  - King-Aaron 8y ago
    Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.
bigphishy 8y ago
it might be the best answer, but it is not the "easiest" for sure haha
fzeroracer 8y ago
Man who has never experienced extreme poverty or the absolute depths of American society attempts to provide easy answer to something he's never been through.

TheForumTroll 8y ago

> trying to more or less win the lottery game that is presently life in western society This is why the "western society" label doesn't fit on the US. Western society isn't like that generally. The US is a huge outlier.