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>semi-pro in dota >4400 MMR OP is being extremely satirical here by the way. He means he's not great but knows how to play (and definitely not semi-pro) but t

>semi-pro in dota >4400 MMR OP is being extremely satirical here by the way. He means he's not great but knows how to play (and definitely not semi-pro) but that context might be lost if you don't play Dota! >Is it more accurate to think of the bots as 5 separate minds, or a single mind controlling 5 heroes? They answered this on the last stream, iirc it's 5 identical clones with the same goals, but not sharing any knowledge, info, or decisions with each other.

shawn 8y ago
1v1 me
hokumguru 8y ago
I think 4400 MMR places OP in at least Ancient-1 ranking which is approximately the 95th percentile. I'd call that at least semi-pro.
- PeCaN 8y ago
  4400 isn't even good enough for amateur tournaments.
- a_humean 8y ago
  Errrrr, at best a dedicated amateur. I'm just 3.5k (I think that's 70th percentile), but I know lots of 4.5k players. To describe the average 4.5k player: Probably has regular groups of people they play with at different skill levels (anywhere from 2.5-5k+), regularly plays battle-cup on Saturdays, maybe played amateur JoinDota league, maybe had a laugh and played open qualifiers only to lose in the first couple rounds, and probably log between between 10-20 hours per week into the game. 4.5k players know how to play to a very good standard and beat the vast majority of other players, but are miles away from the weakest of the professional scene. 4.5k doesn't even appear on the leader boards.
  - bkovacev 8y ago
    I definitely agree with your statement, however.. Solo - the guy that is the captain of Virtus Pro, was at 4k for the longest time. There's more to dota than just mmr. There are players at 5.5-6k range that still do not understand the basics of team play, but are just extremely mechanically gifted and are in great gaming shape.
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jjcm 8y ago
RE: Semi-pro He also mentions that this was in the past. 4 or so years ago 4400 MMR was in the top 1% of dota players. MMR creep has happened significantly since then.

shawn 8y ago

1v1 me

hokumguru 8y ago

I think 4400 MMR places OP in at least Ancient-1 ranking which is approximately the 95th percentile. I'd call that at least semi-pro.

PeCaN 8y ago
4400 isn't even good enough for amateur tournaments.
a_humean 8y ago
Errrrr, at best a dedicated amateur. I'm just 3.5k (I think that's 70th percentile), but I know lots of 4.5k players. To describe the average 4.5k player: Probably has regular groups of people they play with at different skill levels (anywhere from 2.5-5k+), regularly plays battle-cup on Saturdays, maybe played amateur JoinDota league, maybe had a laugh and played open qualifiers only to lose in the first couple rounds, and probably log between between 10-20 hours per week into the game. 4.5k players know how to play to a very good standard and beat the vast majority of other players, but are miles away from the weakest of the professional scene. 4.5k doesn't even appear on the leader boards.
- bkovacev 8y ago
  I definitely agree with your statement, however.. Solo - the guy that is the captain of Virtus Pro, was at 4k for the longest time. There's more to dota than just mmr. There are players at 5.5-6k range that still do not understand the basics of team play, but are just extremely mechanically gifted and are in great gaming shape.

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jjcm 8y ago

RE: Semi-pro He also mentions that this was in the past. 4 or so years ago 4400 MMR was in the top 1% of dota players. MMR creep has happened significantly since then.