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More like burdens like limiting the amount of doctors available, not allowing the importation of foreign drugs, tying healthcare to the employer, etc. You can

More like burdens like limiting the amount of doctors available, not allowing the importation of foreign drugs, tying healthcare to the employer, etc. You can manage the problem of pre-existing conditions in an insurance system with a subsidy, instead of a mandate that forces a 20 year old minimum wage person to work part time, because the employer cannot afford to pay healthcare for him.

scarface74 8y ago
More like burdens like limiting the amount of doctors available, There has never been a law in the US limiting the number of doctors available. tying healthcare to the employer, etc. There was never a law tying healthcare to the employer. Before the ACA, if you had a preexisting condition, that was the only way that you could get insurance - by being part of a covered group. The insurance company wouldn’t cover you. You can manage the problem of pre-existing conditions in an insurance system with a subsidy, instead of a mandate that forces a 20 year old minimum wage person to work part time, because the employer cannot afford to pay healthcare for him. So we need universal coverage like the rest of the civilized world....
- toasterlovin 8y ago
  > There has never been a law in the US limiting the number of doctors available. My understanding is that the supply of doctors is limited by the amount of residency slots and that is limited somehow by whatever professional association licenses doctors.
- conanbatt 8y ago
  > There has never been a law in the US limiting the number of doctors available. There is at least one such limits to about 1/4 of 65.000. And even within that limit they have an irrational amount of extra requirements. > There was never a law tying healthcare to the employer. Sorry but in the US, health insurance is provided by the employer because it is a tax-exempt expenditure. Tax it and see wages diminish considerably once employers pass the cost to the employees. > So we need universal coverage like the rest of the civilized world.... The uncivilized world also has universal coverage. That should be a red flag, shouldn't it?
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Sorry but in the US, health insurance is provided by the employer because it is a tax-exempt expenditure. Tax it and see wages diminish considerably once employers pass the cost to the employees. Employers already pass the cost to employees through lower wages. The uncivilized world also has universal coverage. That should be a red flag, shouldn't it? reply Yes, that in this regard the US is worst than a third world country...
    - conanbatt 8y ago
      They don’t pass to the employee the marginal tax rate pf the health benefit, which by the way is a very regressive policy. And you would be very wrong to believe healthcare in the us is worse than in third world socialized medicine countries. You will find horror stories galore as well as all other kinds of trade offs you wouldn’t accept.

scarface74 8y ago

More like burdens like limiting the amount of doctors available, There has never been a law in the US limiting the number of doctors available. tying healthcare to the employer, etc. There was never a law tying healthcare to the employer. Before the ACA, if you had a preexisting condition, that was the only way that you could get insurance - by being part of a covered group. The insurance company wouldn’t cover you. You can manage the problem of pre-existing conditions in an insurance system with a subsidy, instead of a mandate that forces a 20 year old minimum wage person to work part time, because the employer cannot afford to pay healthcare for him. So we need universal coverage like the rest of the civilized world....

toasterlovin 8y ago
> There has never been a law in the US limiting the number of doctors available. My understanding is that the supply of doctors is limited by the amount of residency slots and that is limited somehow by whatever professional association licenses doctors.
conanbatt 8y ago
> There has never been a law in the US limiting the number of doctors available. There is at least one such limits to about 1/4 of 65.000. And even within that limit they have an irrational amount of extra requirements. > There was never a law tying healthcare to the employer. Sorry but in the US, health insurance is provided by the employer because it is a tax-exempt expenditure. Tax it and see wages diminish considerably once employers pass the cost to the employees. > So we need universal coverage like the rest of the civilized world.... The uncivilized world also has universal coverage. That should be a red flag, shouldn't it?
- scarface74 8y ago
  Sorry but in the US, health insurance is provided by the employer because it is a tax-exempt expenditure. Tax it and see wages diminish considerably once employers pass the cost to the employees. Employers already pass the cost to employees through lower wages. The uncivilized world also has universal coverage. That should be a red flag, shouldn't it? reply Yes, that in this regard the US is worst than a third world country...
  - conanbatt 8y ago
    They don’t pass to the employee the marginal tax rate pf the health benefit, which by the way is a very regressive policy. And you would be very wrong to believe healthcare in the us is worse than in third world socialized medicine countries. You will find horror stories galore as well as all other kinds of trade offs you wouldn’t accept.