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GDPR is a good idea (although I remains to be seen if any of it is enforced, as without enforcement it's pointless) but I agree the cookie law was the stupidest
by Rjevski 8y ago
GDPR is a good idea (although I remains to be seen if any of it is enforced, as without enforcement it's pointless) but I agree the cookie law was the stupidest nonsense I've seen in a long time.
- Grue3 8y agoGDPR is just cookie law on steroids. Except now you have to click a million checkboxes instead of one button, and it works worldwide.
- annabellish 8y agoThat's very untrue. In fact, any site which makes you do that is _violating_ the GDPR - you aren't allowed to have those checkboxes be opt-out. Besides, that's only one small part of the GDPR, which is much closer to the Data Protection Act modernised for 2018's awful internet than anything else. We did this to ourselves by proving we can't be trusted to self-regulate.
- Rjevski 8y agoI think his main point is that for now GDPR is just as inefficient as the cookie "law" it replaced, which I have to agree with - the only thing that will make these regulations useful is enforcement - until that happens companies will just ignore it (as we can already see with plenty of non-GDPR-compliant sites).
- mrighele 8y agoI agree, but until now I have seen very few websites doing GDPR properly (probably because it would go against one of their main ways to make money). The best implementation that I found to date, is on GitLab's website [1]. [1] https://about.gitlab.com/ https://about.gitlab.com/
- swebs 8y agoWikia is also good with it, though it's not too clear that "Reject advertising cookies" is a button. http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Metroid_Wiki http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Metroid_Wiki
- Grue3 8y agoConsidering almost every big website makes me do that, and they presumably have a team of lawyers on payroll, I'd rather take their opinion on the matter (no offense). If million checkboxes thing violated GDPR, you'd think someone would be suing them already by now.
- Rjevski 8y agoThe problem with GDPR is that you can't sue over it directly, you can only report them to your jurisdiction's privacy watchdog (CNIL in France, ICO in the UK, etc), and if the privacy watchdog sucks or doesn't care then tough luck.
- ginko 8y agoYou don't need to click a million checkboxes. All the cookies should be disabled by default. If sites require you to disable everything by hand then they're not complying with GDPR.
- l9k 8y agoYou can still click only one button, if you're okay with all the tracking.
- alkonaut 8y agoLet's just hope the EU clarifies some things quite quickly with the GDPR. Basically sites can't just show large cookie dialogs explaining to users what tech they want to use to track users and show better ads. Users should be able to 1) view the site/use the service without being tracked in any way that isn't technologically necessary (not just financially necessary). 2) Sites can't just show a dialog asking for consent and then go on as usual. The goal of the GDPR is to have sites default to non-tracking, and just keep showing me the content, without any dialogs. And hopefully some large company will be dragged to court and fined a symbolically enormous fee, after which everyone else follows suit.
- swebs 8y agoCookie law does not give users a way to opt-out. That's why you get annoying pop-ups that say "By viewing this site, you agree to all our tracking bullshit" GDPR says users must be given an option to opt-out and you cannot start tracking them until they specifically click "I agree".
- bitL 8y agoIf you use private browsing by default, you literally have to click through checkboxes on every single page visit after you restart the browser. They killed Internet with it already...