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I think we can assume that it's within 1 hour of being reported, not uploaded, since there's no way to guarantee everything that's uploaded is fully checked, ev

I think we can assume that it's within 1 hour of being reported, not uploaded, since there's no way to guarantee everything that's uploaded is fully checked, even with a staff large enough to look at it all and make decisions more than a few seconds long. But that problem also basically exists for smaller sites under the "1 hour after reported" rule, too. IMO, it would basically force them to hide anything that was reported immediately, and then restore it after it was moderated. That will make it horrifyingly easy for internet trolls to mess with things.

l9k 8y ago
For a small website with a team working 9-5 and no advanced AI moderation, that would mean that they can't let users upload things outside of working hours...
yladiz 8y ago
I’m not sure though, because of this quote: > In March, the EU's civil service published details of the current voluntary arrangement, which noted that "terrorist content is most harmful in the first hours of its appearance online". This makes me think it may be timed from the upload, not the report.
- wccrawford 8y ago
  Then that would basically mean that all content would have to be moderated in the EU, which would cripple forums and chat sites. I can't even begin to imagine what repercussions that will have.
zerebubuth 8y ago
I don't think we can assume it's within 1 hour of being reported. The press release also says: > In addition to referrals, internet companies should implement proactive measures, including automated detection, to effectively and swiftly remove or disable terrorist content and stop it from reappearing once it has been removed. To me, that sounds a lot like they're willing to mandate AI detection in order to "solve" the "team is asleep" problem. They suggest this might be yet another rent-seeking opportunity for big internet platforms: > To assist smaller platforms, companies should share and optimise appropriate technological tools and put in place working arrangements for better cooperation with the relevant authorities, including Europol. No doubt, some "helpful" authorities will provide an "appropriate technological tool" to help. No need for the government to break Perfect Forward Secrecy if every site is giving it clear-text access to all uploaded content.

l9k 8y ago

For a small website with a team working 9-5 and no advanced AI moderation, that would mean that they can't let users upload things outside of working hours...

yladiz 8y ago

I’m not sure though, because of this quote: > In March, the EU's civil service published details of the current voluntary arrangement, which noted that "terrorist content is most harmful in the first hours of its appearance online". This makes me think it may be timed from the upload, not the report.

wccrawford 8y ago
Then that would basically mean that all content would have to be moderated in the EU, which would cripple forums and chat sites. I can't even begin to imagine what repercussions that will have.

zerebubuth 8y ago

I don't think we can assume it's within 1 hour of being reported. The press release also says: > In addition to referrals, internet companies should implement proactive measures, including automated detection, to effectively and swiftly remove or disable terrorist content and stop it from reappearing once it has been removed. To me, that sounds a lot like they're willing to mandate AI detection in order to "solve" the "team is asleep" problem. They suggest this might be yet another rent-seeking opportunity for big internet platforms: > To assist smaller platforms, companies should share and optimise appropriate technological tools and put in place working arrangements for better cooperation with the relevant authorities, including Europol. No doubt, some "helpful" authorities will provide an "appropriate technological tool" to help. No need for the government to break Perfect Forward Secrecy if every site is giving it clear-text access to all uploaded content.