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The True Size of Africa
- mgunes 16y agoIs this by the Kai Krause? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Krause http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Krause
- iterationx 16y agoafrica 30m km^2 moon 38m km^2 asia 44m km^2
- darklajid 16y agoOkay, I'll bite: I truely feel sorry for being one of these ignorant people. Looking at the image I can confirm that I'd have answered the question _way_ off (USA, India, China? No way!). This makes my day. I learned something, feel humiliated enough to go on and read more about Geography for the rest of the evening - and all because of a creative illustration.
- raquo 16y agoI indeed thought it was like 40% smaller, probably because rectangular world maps are so distorted.
- mrduncan 16y agoI'm not sure a clip of the West Wing has ever been more on-topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8zBC2dvERM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8zBC2dvERM See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall%E2%80%93Peters_projection http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall%E2%80%93Peters_projection
- edanm 16y agoI love that clip (and pretty much everything else in The West Wing). But there is actually a reason the Mercator map (which distorts size) is so widely used, which isn't really mentioned in the clip. EDIT: Actually it is mentioned in the clip! Treats me right to rely on memory :) I'm leaving the explanation here for anyone that hasn't seen the clip. Thanks yummyfajitas for pointing out my mistake. The gist of the reasoning is this: take any 3D object, and try and map it onto a 2D surface, and you're going to have to distort something. In the case of the Mercator map, the plan was to make a map that clearly showed "shipping lanes", i.e. if you draw a straight line on the map from one point to another, you can travel in a straight line in the real word between those points. This is important for sea travel (the Mercator map was created in the 1500's). The trade-off to this decision was that sizes were distorted. More reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_map
- yummyfajitas 16y agoBut there is actually a reason the Mercator map (which distorts size) is so widely used, which isn't really mentioned in the clip. Not a West Wing fan at all, but the reason for the Mercator projection was mentioned in the clip at about 1:10.
- wardrox 16y agoI'm a Brit and had a similar moment of realisation when I discovered America wasn't about the size of Spain + France. I think it was the facial expression my (American) girlfriend gave me when I suggested we drive for a weekend away in Florida (we were in New Jersey at the time) that tipped me off. America is basically the size of Europe, which really surprised me. But then, it's not knowledge you ever really need to know.
- LargeWu 16y agoReminds me of the adage: In America, 100 years is a long time. In England, 100 miles is a long distance.
- pavel_lishin 16y agoMy parents and I live in Texas, and they went to New York a few years ago on vacation, renting a car and just driving around for awhile. They'd take out a map, determine their approximate route from point A to point B, figure it would take about three hours... and arrive, confused, 45 minutes later.
- nutjob123 16y agoWish we had an autobahn-like road system here to get around faster. 80mph federal speed limit is ridiculous with the cars we have these days.
- noonespecial 16y agoIt is however, perfectly sane considering the drivers we have these days.
- astine 16y agoNo, America (meaning the USA) is somewhat smaller than Europe, especially if you count European Russia, another country whose size is often underestimated. Though, it is helpful to realize that the United States is, in fact, larger in terms of landmass than China, and is exceeded only by Canada (the other North American Anglo democracy, much of whose land is largely empty due to the extreme cold) and by Russia, (another country with a lot cold, mostly unused land.) Russia, even in its post Soviet scaled-back state, is in fact largely an empire. Most of its land was conquered from indigenous peoples who still inhabit it, this it not too different from both the United States and Canada, though the circumstances are somewhat different.
- camiller 16y agoLeft off Alaska, but there is plenty of unallocated gray area in the Africa outline so I'll call it a wash.
- BrandonM 16y agoLeaving off Alaska is pretty significant, indeed: http://www.usmarshals.gov/district/ak/images/alaska-small.gif http://www.usmarshals.gov/district/ak/images/alaska-small.gi... I assume that the numbers to the left of the image (area of USA) include Alaska, so I think your comment actually is pretty accurate: the unallocated gray area and the area of Alaska must be pretty close to the same.
- DrJokepu 16y agoSince this visualisation is dedicated to the fight against "immappancy" I'd like to mention that Eastern Europe generally doesn't include any of Austria (Central Europe), Greece (South Europe) but it definitely does include the Baltic states, Belarus and the European parts of Russia. Just sayin'.
- zokier 16y agoI think non-continuous maps also illustrate the point quite nicely. Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dymaxion_map_unfolded.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dymaxion_map_unfolded.png Other examples are welcome.
- febeling 16y agoYes, that was what I just meant to google up as well. These maps were made by the venerable Buckminster Fuller. And he explains really nicely, how the Mercator projection was really sufficient when you navigate with ships, and how it even helps that the distortion gets you constant compass reading when you follow a "line" on the map, and what is a delicate curve in reality. It only entered the (first military, later public) conscience when air travel and intercontinental missiles became available that the geographic distance between Alaska and the USSR was quite small in places. I know Fuller is a bit of a persona non-grata among scientific-minded people, because of his fantasy approach and his rejection of mathematics. But it was Einstein who said "imagination is more important than knowledge."
- boredguy8 16y agoIn other news: Neither Europe nor the USA are at the 'center' of the world. Nor is there a particularly compelling reason for north to be 'up'. All this and more, from critical cartography: http://www.acme-journal.org/vol4/JWCJK.pdf http://www.acme-journal.org/vol4/JWCJK.pdf
- awakeasleep 16y agoOn a similar note, does anyone else feel bothered by the recent use of "North of" to mean "more than"?
- hugh3 16y agoAt least the placement of Europe in the middle of the map makes sense, because then the map edge occurs in the middle of the Pacific and doesn't cut anything important in half (no offence, Aleutian Islanders!) Similarly, Australian-made world maps stick the map edge in the Atlantic. But putting the Americas in the middle of the map makes no sense, you have to cut Eurasia in half somewhere.
- seanlinmt 16y agoI for one prefer this map with New Zealand in the centre ;) http://flourish.org/upsidedownmap/mcarthur-large.jpg http://flourish.org/upsidedownmap/mcarthur-large.jpg
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- ptm 16y agoI make this little app some time back to compare the size of various countries/continents - http://mapfight.appspot.com/ http://mapfight.appspot.com/ So, for example, http://mapfight.appspot.com/africa-vs-europe http://mapfight.appspot.com/africa-vs-europe, http://mapfight.appspot.com/africa-vs-cn http://mapfight.appspot.com/africa-vs-cn, http://mapfight.appspot.com/africa-vs-in http://mapfight.appspot.com/africa-vs-in, or my favorite http://mapfight.appspot.com/africa-vs-gl http://mapfight.appspot.com/africa-vs-gl
- pavel_lishin 16y agoI was amused by http://mapfight.appspot.com/us-vs-cn http://mapfight.appspot.com/us-vs-cn
- greencookie 16y agoWhy do Africans have to have everything bigger than the rest of us? :( :)
- NickPollard 16y agoAm I an outlier in not being at all startled at this? They compare one of the World's largest continents to one of the smallest, plus some other countries (some of which are large; but not the two largest). Perhaps this is due to being British, I am used to the fact that my country is small and that the rest of the world is in fact, very large. To be fair, I am reminded of when I mentioned to a friend I was considering emigrating to Montreal, and she replied that she might be moving to Vancouver and we could meet up at weekends...
- maxklein 16y agoThe U.S has a population density of 32/km^2 which is only slightly higher than the population density of Africa, which is 30/km^2. That's why both the U.S and Africa seem spacious, with lots of empty space between places.
- davidj 16y agoSo.... about 3 Alaska's
- advisedwang 16y agoSmall point - The map makes the UK and Madagascar look about the same size; Wikipedia reveals Madagascar is about twice the size of the UK. I suspect somebody did not use an appropriate map projection.
- spoiledtechie 16y agoI have to ask then, Why is Africa in SUCH poverty. Compared to the rest of the world, Africa as a continent is third world. Why the hell has it never been better than what it was when kings and queens had control of Africa. Did it have a brain drain when the slaves were exported?