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Problem is not that T2 chips are causing kernel panic - that stuff happens. Problem is that nobody wanted the touch bar and thus the T2 chip there in the first
by blinkingled 8y ago
Problem is not that T2 chips are causing kernel panic - that stuff happens. Problem is that nobody wanted the touch bar and thus the T2 chip there in the first place - another chip with its own OS running and handling the touch bar crap nobody cares about and many are annoyed by. Apple has gotten into NIH+Something fancy just to jack up the hype and prices too deep.
I might be mistaken - but tell me if I am - how is my X1 Carbon 6th gen meaningfully less secure/functional than the MBP? IOW, what am I getting in return for missing ESC, added complexity of the touch bar and significantly higher price? AFAICT nothing if I am not bound to the OS.
- boulos 8y agoWhile I’m also not interested in the touch bar, the T2 also handles other security functions like disk encryption and certifying your boot. So you’d still have the T2 even without the bar.
- armadsen 8y agoYep. As evidenced by the iMac Pro also having a T2 despite not having a touch bar. (It also has the kernel panics that are a feature of the T2.)
- blinkingled 8y agoOk, understood. But my point is that PC side disk encryption and secure boot are handled in a standard fashion (TPM 2.0/ UEFI Secure Boot / Intel TXT) without needing another ARM chip and it's own proprietary OS. It's the whole solution looking for problem thing. If I run Windows or Linux on the Mac I think I won't be able to use the T2 chip for anything.
- wodenokoto 8y ago> Problem is that nobody wanted the touch bar and thus the T2 chip there in the first place I think you are discounting the millions of people who never wanted the F-keys in the first place.
- blinkingled 8y agoSure but that doesn't mean the F-key haters wanted touch bar as a replacement! Because it's worse - at least the F keys were usable across the OSes equally without kernel panics.
- nnq 8y ago> my X1 Carbon 6th gen probably not what you care about, but the MBC justifies its higher price by significantly higher screen quality... and by the fact that MBPs (and Surface Pros I guess too now) are the only notebooks that manage to pull of the 'amazing screen usable outdoors' + 'battery life keeps being good even if your screen is at a higher brightness' combo... ALL other laptop manufacturers miss this. Imo <4K and <450 nits for a screen means that it just f sucks, that's not a good enough display!
- willtim 8y agoThe MacBook Pro 15" does not have a 4K screen. Lenovo on the other hand do sell workstation-class laptops with 4K screens (3840 x 2160). The X1 Carbon is comparable in size to the 13" MacBook Pro and offers a similar 500 nits IPS panel.
- blinkingled 8y agoActually my X1 has a pretty great HDR 500 nits screen. Sure it's WQHD but for a 14" screen that's good enough.