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If you reveal sensitive information to someone in confidence, and they betray your trust, of course you're going to feel betrayed. And of course you're going to

by whack 8y ago

If you reveal sensitive information to someone in confidence, and they betray your trust, of course you're going to feel betrayed. And of course you're going to hold back on other sensitive information in the future. Most Googlers realize this as well, which is why they too are upset with the leakers. It shuts off any visibility that they would have otherwise. Visibility that can be used productively to alter company policy, like was done with the defense contract. Ultimately, preserving the confidentiality of sensitive discussions, is part of the social contract that benefits the employees themselves in the long term. Going on an anti-corporate diatribe and tearing up this social contract isn't doing anyone any good.

MrLeap 8y ago
You're accusing me of engaging in diatribe? Audacious! Google has 88,000 employees. I don't know what their definition is for "All Hands", but it's probably a lot of people. I think there's a saying about this. 88,000 people can keep a secret if 87,999 are dead? I know you're hardly the first, but I laughed when you called them "Googlers" instead of Google Employees. I can't wait until Google calls up its levy of Googlers to arms and they hit the campaign with retinues holding bright blue-red-orange-blue-green-red standards. I believe the feeling of betrayal is real but it's still funny. I assert this is more about loyalty to your liege/realm/company than a practical thing to be upset about. The people doing the cursing on a hot mic seem to have built their identity around the company they work for. I get how that could happen but it's still peculiar to me, I firmly believe that no matter how many times they say it, the company you work for is NOT your family, unless it's a family owned business and they are. It just occurred to me that you might think I'm being anti-corporate because of the comparisons to feudalism. Maybe you felt an instinctually negative reaction when you read the word. I'm much more dispassionate myself. Taking the emotion out of the words allow you to see that the systems have enormous similarity with merely different vocabulary, like angular vs. react, except feudalism isn't as dystopian as angular (Ha Ha, google joke). Peasant::Non Managerial Employees, Youtube:Google:Alphabet::Duchy:Kingdom:Empire. It's there, you just have to look!

by whack 8y ago

MrLeap 8y ago

You're accusing me of engaging in diatribe? Audacious! Google has 88,000 employees. I don't know what their definition is for "All Hands", but it's probably a lot of people. I think there's a saying about this. 88,000 people can keep a secret if 87,999 are dead? I know you're hardly the first, but I laughed when you called them "Googlers" instead of Google Employees. I can't wait until Google calls up its levy of Googlers to arms and they hit the campaign with retinues holding bright blue-red-orange-blue-green-red standards. I believe the feeling of betrayal is real but it's still funny. I assert this is more about loyalty to your liege/realm/company than a practical thing to be upset about. The people doing the cursing on a hot mic seem to have built their identity around the company they work for. I get how that could happen but it's still peculiar to me, I firmly believe that no matter how many times they say it, the company you work for is NOT your family, unless it's a family owned business and they are. It just occurred to me that you might think I'm being anti-corporate because of the comparisons to feudalism. Maybe you felt an instinctually negative reaction when you read the word. I'm much more dispassionate myself. Taking the emotion out of the words allow you to see that the systems have enormous similarity with merely different vocabulary, like angular vs. react, except feudalism isn't as dystopian as angular (Ha Ha, google joke). Peasant::Non Managerial Employees, Youtube:Google:Alphabet::Duchy:Kingdom:Empire. It's there, you just have to look!