> But you were, I thought, not considering that to be determinative. I refined my definition somewhat because Scientology is an edge case I hadn't fully consid

> But you were, I thought, not considering that to be determinative. I refined my definition somewhat because Scientology is an edge case I hadn't fully considered. So my previous statement about Pastafarians is incorrect--if enough of them held genuine belief, then it might be said that their faith had taken on a sincerity independent of the founders' intent, and their religion might then be considered valid. Of course, that hasn't happened and it's hard to imagine it ever happening given the deliberately farcical nature of their deity.