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Rent for small apartments close to the Green or Yellow lines are in the R$1000-1200 range for rent only. You must add charges("condominio"), electricity and tax

by kawera 16y ago

Rent for small apartments close to the Green or Yellow lines are in the R$1000-1200 range for rent only. You must add charges("condominio"), electricity and tax("iptu"). I have two units, one close to Clinicas hospital, another close to Ana Rosa station, that I rent for R$1200 each, plus charges of around R$350 each. At a far-from-trendy mid-market bar, the going price for a large bottle of Original is in the R$6-7 range, not only in Vila Madalena but also in Paraiso, Vila Mariana, Bela Vista, Jardins, Pinheiros. The price for a Bohemia at a "padaria" is R$4. My fix-priced cell phone plan for 300 minutes, unlimited text and very limited 3G is R$250. Bus or Metro tickets are R$2.70 now, not US$1 as I (mis)quoted. São Paulo isn't cheap.

rglullis 16y ago
> São Paulo isn't cheap. Truer words are rarely spoken. To live a fairly "average" standard of living compared to any North American or European city, São Paulo costs way more. But I guess what I'm trying to say is that São Paulo has a very high degree of variability. It can be cheaper, if you are willing to let go of certain things. For instance: - why living "by the rivers", you can live on the East Side or closer to the South? Saúde, Ipiranga... good neighborhoods but much cheaper. Downtown (Centrão) São Paulo also still has a lot of stigma, so prices are lower than the West side. - The R$250 phone plan is a luxury, if you enjoy it and can afford, more power to you. But it isn't a necessity. - I wouldn't go out at any place where a beer costs 6 bucks. I wouldn't go to a place where they have a minimum charge of R$40, like many do in the neighborhoods you mentioned. - Why buy a Mac, if you can go to Santa Ifigênia and get a more-than-decent box for R$800?
- TheEzEzz 16y ago
  When I go to Sao Paulo I have a friend in the Jardins I stay with, so I don't have to worry about rent. The down side is that hanging out with him and his upper class buddies destroys the savings I get!

by kawera 16y ago

rglullis 16y ago

> São Paulo isn't cheap. Truer words are rarely spoken. To live a fairly "average" standard of living compared to any North American or European city, São Paulo costs way more. But I guess what I'm trying to say is that São Paulo has a very high degree of variability. It can be cheaper, if you are willing to let go of certain things. For instance: - why living "by the rivers", you can live on the East Side or closer to the South? Saúde, Ipiranga... good neighborhoods but much cheaper. Downtown (Centrão) São Paulo also still has a lot of stigma, so prices are lower than the West side. - The R$250 phone plan is a luxury, if you enjoy it and can afford, more power to you. But it isn't a necessity. - I wouldn't go out at any place where a beer costs 6 bucks. I wouldn't go to a place where they have a minimum charge of R$40, like many do in the neighborhoods you mentioned. - Why buy a Mac, if you can go to Santa Ifigênia and get a more-than-decent box for R$800?

TheEzEzz 16y ago
When I go to Sao Paulo I have a friend in the Jardins I stay with, so I don't have to worry about rent. The down side is that hanging out with him and his upper class buddies destroys the savings I get!