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date of birth is illegal? Probably one of the more irrelevant things, as it is easily deductible from the rest of the entries.
by gsich 8y ago
date of birth is illegal? Probably one of the more irrelevant things, as it is easily deductible from the rest of the entries.
- godzillabrennus 8y agoNot always. Folks can obtain a degree later in life to throw off the ageism detector.
- ekianjo 8y agooh yeah and how do you make up for the years of experience then? fake jobs entries?
- maccard 8y agoRequesting Years of experience can also be considered discrimination
- ekianjo 8y agoin which world? because every job posting I have ever seen requires years of doing x or y.
- astura 8y agoFFS, It's not illegal discrimination. In the USA discrimination is 100% legal if 1) the group being discriminated against is not specifically defined as a protected group under law OR 2) it's a legitimate job requirement. Requiring programmers to know how to program also discriminates against non-programmers but non-programmers aren't a protected group. Requiring a stocker to be able to lift 30 pounds discriminates against the disabled. The disabled are a protected group, but it's a legitimate job requirement for a stocker to be able to move the stock around. If you're hiring for a senior engineer it's not illegal discrimination because 1) it's a legitimate job requirement and 2) young people are not a protected group under law (only people over 40 are)
- bausshf 8y agoOut of my own personal curiosity. How does the protection for people over 40 work?
- loa-in-backup 8y agoImagine his career lasts just as long, he just starts at his 40s
- yardstick 8y agoOr just don’t include more than a year or two of job history prior to the degree.
- jlarocco 8y agoI'm 36. If I get a degree in a new field and work 15 years, I'll be 55, but my resume will say I have a Bachelor's degree with 15 years of experience.
- zafka 8y agoI picked up my BCE at 36. Of course now that I am 58, even 44 is getting to the outer edge for those who would discriminate.
- gsich 8y agoYes. But you usually don't do that to trigger an aegism detector. Also, if you include previous work experiences (with dates obviously) one can still determine how old you are. Nevertheless, once you go there in person for your interview, people will notice anyway.
- scarface74 8y agoI only include my last 10 years of experience and don’t include the year I graduated. Not only to reduce the chance of ageism, but my experience with Perl, VB6, MFC, DCOM, etc. is not relevant.
- eikenberry 8y agoIf applying in a market with rampant ageism why not just leave specific dates off altogether. Just list degrees received and durations of employment.
- lotsofpulp 8y agoDate of birth, either by request from employer or voluntarily given by employee, is not illegal. However, anyone with half a brain won't use it since that's just asking for a discrimination lawsuit since there is no more plausible deniability.
- smnrchrds 8y agoAlas, it is trivial for employers to guess a candidate's age with resonable accuracy, as most people have their education timeline in their resume.
- dannypgh 8y agoI'd think most people who are worried about age discrimination would drop their matriculation year from their resume.
- scarface74 8y agoYep this and I’ve been told by my Caucasian friends that they can’t tell the age of Black men if we are clean shaven and shave our hair off to cut the gray and re ending hairline. Most guess that I am at most in my early 30s - not my mid 40s. I always go completely clean shaven with a bald head when I interview.
- cimmanom 8y agoLeave the date off your degree. Leave out experience prior to date X, or leave dates off ancient history experience entries. Or use a “functional” style resume.
- Spooky23 8y agoIt is a fig leaf intended to discourage age discrimination.