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Why not just use a Atom-based NUC? At 10W TDP (and mostly at idle for many uses), other power draws become more important anyways. Modern Atom's are surprisingl

by ac29 8y ago

Why not just use a Atom-based NUC? At 10W TDP (and mostly at idle for many uses), other power draws become more important anyways. Modern Atom's are surprisingly competent.

notafraudster 8y ago
Intel hasn't released an Atom-based NUC in 4.5 years (they do have a few more modern "Celeron" or "Pentium" branded units -- not sure if these are intended to be efficient or just cheap). But yes, of course my original comment wasn't implying there is anything magical about ARM that Intel couldn't do -- just that historically they have really dominated the performance per watt low TDP space and Intel's current "efficient" offerings still have pretty huge power draw.
- ac29 8y ago
  There are at least 2 recent Atom NUC's. They do use the "Celeron" branding, which is a little confusing because there are both Core-based Celerons and Atom-based Celerons. But these two are Atom: Gemini Lake Atom NUC: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/mini-pcs/nuc7cjysal.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits... Apollo Lake Atom NUC: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/mini-pcs/nuc6cays.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits...
- lhl 8y ago
  I don't track the Intel NUC SKUs super closely, but the industrial/embedded board sector is lousy with tiny low-power x86 chips in USFF/NUC, PicoITX, 3.5" form factors (Aaeon, Axiomtek, Jetway, etc or just browse through linuxgizmos.com or cnx-software.com for a constant stream of releases). On the consumer side there might be less, but the Gigabyte Brix, ECS Liva, and the Zotac mini-PC lines seem to be running strong and have a full line of TDPs - Zotac's latest P-series units look pretty great for their size: https://www.zotac.com/us/product/mini_pcs/zbox-p-series/all https://www.zotac.com/us/product/mini_pcs/zbox-p-series/all
dgregd 8y ago
Two weeks ago I bought a small Zotac box with Intel Celeron N3060. The whole system with 4GB RAM and SSD drive consumes 8W. It is good for backups. It runs Ubuntu 18.04 w/o any problems.

by ac29 8y ago

Why not just use a Atom-based NUC? At 10W TDP (and mostly at idle for many uses), other power draws become more important anyways. Modern Atom's are surprisingly competent.

notafraudster 8y ago

Intel hasn't released an Atom-based NUC in 4.5 years (they do have a few more modern "Celeron" or "Pentium" branded units -- not sure if these are intended to be efficient or just cheap). But yes, of course my original comment wasn't implying there is anything magical about ARM that Intel couldn't do -- just that historically they have really dominated the performance per watt low TDP space and Intel's current "efficient" offerings still have pretty huge power draw.

ac29 8y ago
There are at least 2 recent Atom NUC's. They do use the "Celeron" branding, which is a little confusing because there are both Core-based Celerons and Atom-based Celerons. But these two are Atom: Gemini Lake Atom NUC: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/mini-pcs/nuc7cjysal.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits... Apollo Lake Atom NUC: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/nuc/mini-pcs/nuc6cays.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits...
lhl 8y ago
I don't track the Intel NUC SKUs super closely, but the industrial/embedded board sector is lousy with tiny low-power x86 chips in USFF/NUC, PicoITX, 3.5" form factors (Aaeon, Axiomtek, Jetway, etc or just browse through linuxgizmos.com or cnx-software.com for a constant stream of releases). On the consumer side there might be less, but the Gigabyte Brix, ECS Liva, and the Zotac mini-PC lines seem to be running strong and have a full line of TDPs - Zotac's latest P-series units look pretty great for their size: https://www.zotac.com/us/product/mini_pcs/zbox-p-series/all https://www.zotac.com/us/product/mini_pcs/zbox-p-series/all

dgregd 8y ago

Two weeks ago I bought a small Zotac box with Intel Celeron N3060. The whole system with 4GB RAM and SSD drive consumes 8W. It is good for backups. It runs Ubuntu 18.04 w/o any problems.