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He didn't have a 2011 finals perhaps because at the same age that Lebron was in 2011 (26) Jordan was getting his behind handed to him by the pistons and not eve

He didn't have a 2011 finals perhaps because at the same age that Lebron was in 2011 (26) Jordan was getting his behind handed to him by the pistons and not even making the finals. That's the fallacy with the "6-0" argument

jimmy1 8y ago
Since you think the argument is fallacious, let me spell it out really simply: 6-0 is greater than 3-6. I am so tired of the "Lebron carries teams on his back" argument. He sets it up this way. It's his own doing. The only time he didn't is when he went to the Heat. > Now, it’s tough to identify a part of the Cavs’ basketball operation that isn’t dictated by James’s preferences. In 2015, he needled the organization into handing Tristan Thompson an onerous five-year, $82 million contract. That same year, it became clear LeBron liked assistant coach Tyronn Lue more than head coach David Blatt, with James famously ignoring a Blatt play call before hitting a game-winner in a playoff game against the Bulls. Unsurprisingly, Blatt was fired and Lue promoted to the top job in January 2016. James publicly meddled with another free-agency decision the following offseason, urging the Cavs to give Smith a four-year, $57 million contract. While ensuring his team would handsomely pay some of its midtier talents, his connection with his costar weakened: Nobody has claimed that LeBron’s relationship with Irving is the primary reason Irving demanded a trade, but it seems odd that a player who once orchestrated an alliance of superstars lost the allegiance of his best teammate. > When Lue makes questionable decisions, remember that he’s the coach James wanted. When Smith ruins late-game possessions and Thompson appears to have no real use on the floor, remember those are players James wanted. When Jordan Clarkson falters and Rodney Hood fails to even crack Cleveland’s rotation, keep in mind that those are the guys the Cavaliers traded for due to James’s midseason malaise. The team’s general lack of depth stems from overpayments to players like Smith and Thompson, contracts that were offered to appease LeBron. > As we consider James’s legacy—and that’s seemingly all basketball fans want to do at any given moment—we need to consider the size of the hills he’s had to climb. In Cleveland, he has helped create those hills. https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/5/17429314/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-finals-teammates https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/5/17429314/lebron-james...
goatlover 8y ago
Jordan was losing to a superior Pistons team while still putting up the best numbers of anyone in the series. The Heat were supposed to beat the Mavs in 2011. Lebron had a historically bad finals for an all-time great. There is no comparison here.

jimmy1 8y ago

Since you think the argument is fallacious, let me spell it out really simply: 6-0 is greater than 3-6. I am so tired of the "Lebron carries teams on his back" argument. He sets it up this way. It's his own doing. The only time he didn't is when he went to the Heat. > Now, it’s tough to identify a part of the Cavs’ basketball operation that isn’t dictated by James’s preferences. In 2015, he needled the organization into handing Tristan Thompson an onerous five-year, $82 million contract. That same year, it became clear LeBron liked assistant coach Tyronn Lue more than head coach David Blatt, with James famously ignoring a Blatt play call before hitting a game-winner in a playoff game against the Bulls. Unsurprisingly, Blatt was fired and Lue promoted to the top job in January 2016. James publicly meddled with another free-agency decision the following offseason, urging the Cavs to give Smith a four-year, $57 million contract. While ensuring his team would handsomely pay some of its midtier talents, his connection with his costar weakened: Nobody has claimed that LeBron’s relationship with Irving is the primary reason Irving demanded a trade, but it seems odd that a player who once orchestrated an alliance of superstars lost the allegiance of his best teammate. > When Lue makes questionable decisions, remember that he’s the coach James wanted. When Smith ruins late-game possessions and Thompson appears to have no real use on the floor, remember those are players James wanted. When Jordan Clarkson falters and Rodney Hood fails to even crack Cleveland’s rotation, keep in mind that those are the guys the Cavaliers traded for due to James’s midseason malaise. The team’s general lack of depth stems from overpayments to players like Smith and Thompson, contracts that were offered to appease LeBron. > As we consider James’s legacy—and that’s seemingly all basketball fans want to do at any given moment—we need to consider the size of the hills he’s had to climb. In Cleveland, he has helped create those hills. https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/5/17429314/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-finals-teammates https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/6/5/17429314/lebron-james...

goatlover 8y ago

Jordan was losing to a superior Pistons team while still putting up the best numbers of anyone in the series. The Heat were supposed to beat the Mavs in 2011. Lebron had a historically bad finals for an all-time great. There is no comparison here.