> Would we rather that Musk had just never founded Tesla and Space Yes, while SpaceX has _something_ going for it — though not as much as people like to think,

> Would we rather that Musk had just never founded Tesla and Space Yes, while SpaceX has _something_ going for it — though not as much as people like to think, Tesla isn't anything to write home about. Nissan is the market leader in electric vehicles, not Tesla. Tesla survives only because the cult status means people are willing to wait more than they otherwise would. SpaceX does some cool things - as a rocket enthusiast I pay more attention than a space fan arguably should - but a) I'd attribute that to Shotwell more than to Elon, and b) keep things in perspective, rockets are _not_ more expensive than payloads, except for really light payloads, where I'd pay more attention to the less-exciting light launch segment. And SpaceX is very much rooted in the US de-funding NASA, and extracting both engineering projects and subsidies from it.