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Bezos. Amazon has revolutionised the way we buy things, meaning land is no longer needed for strip malls, oil isn't burnt driving to them, people aren't having

Bezos. Amazon has revolutionised the way we buy things, meaning land is no longer needed for strip malls, oil isn't burnt driving to them, people aren't having inferior things pushed on them by dodgy salesmen, or wasting an hour to buy a single item, or buying the wrong item because the right one is out of stock.

bopbop 8y ago
I think there's still quite a significant difference between "popularizing something that may save the planet from extinction from global warming which could have been pursued for quite a while by other large companies automotive and otherwise but hasn't been" to "people prefer shopping with them over how they used to shop". But I can see that the net gain of the time saved using Amazon could be argued as a good for society.
- isostatic 8y ago
  Has Telsa really popularised it? Or is this looking at things from an SV perspective? Certainly in the UK it's a minor player compared with the Nissan Leaf, and plugin hybrids are even more popular
  - bopbop 8y ago
    Well, anecdotally, I'm from the UK, and hadn't heard of the Nissan Leaf until you mentioned it. Tesla, on the other hand... Although yes, actually that's very impressive. With regards to Hybrids, my (limited) understanding is that they are part of the problem - they're better, but only better by half. From what I'm reading about global warming, we need to push as far as possible towards a fully electric, mostly renewable future as quick as possible.
    - isostatic 8y ago
      Plug in hybrids mean you get to pootle around on battery power for local trips to the shop/school/etc, but have a car for long trips
      - bopbop 8y ago
        I didn't appreciate that difference in them, thanks.
- _bxg1 8y ago
  Add onto that Amazon's systematic, abhorrent treatment of its employees that was required to achieve "more efficient shopping" and the whole thing shows itself as banal, and honestly evil.

bopbop 8y ago

I think there's still quite a significant difference between "popularizing something that may save the planet from extinction from global warming which could have been pursued for quite a while by other large companies automotive and otherwise but hasn't been" to "people prefer shopping with them over how they used to shop". But I can see that the net gain of the time saved using Amazon could be argued as a good for society.

isostatic 8y ago
Has Telsa really popularised it? Or is this looking at things from an SV perspective? Certainly in the UK it's a minor player compared with the Nissan Leaf, and plugin hybrids are even more popular
- bopbop 8y ago
  Well, anecdotally, I'm from the UK, and hadn't heard of the Nissan Leaf until you mentioned it. Tesla, on the other hand... Although yes, actually that's very impressive. With regards to Hybrids, my (limited) understanding is that they are part of the problem - they're better, but only better by half. From what I'm reading about global warming, we need to push as far as possible towards a fully electric, mostly renewable future as quick as possible.
  - isostatic 8y ago
    Plug in hybrids mean you get to pootle around on battery power for local trips to the shop/school/etc, but have a car for long trips
    - bopbop 8y ago
      I didn't appreciate that difference in them, thanks.
_bxg1 8y ago
Add onto that Amazon's systematic, abhorrent treatment of its employees that was required to achieve "more efficient shopping" and the whole thing shows itself as banal, and honestly evil.