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> China is building the infrastructure to exploit their resources This is even worse. China will eat up the world in a similar way in which they ate up Sri-Lan

> China is building the infrastructure to exploit their resources This is even worse. China will eat up the world in a similar way in which they ate up Sri-Lanka's port. Build a ton of infra for the developing world and then once they're unable to pay for it, they camp in your country forcibly. The debt is mounting in most countries where China has 'invested' in infrastructure. For instance in Kenya, each Kenyan is estimated to already owe the Chinese roughly $100 and counting. May not mean much in the west but certainly is a lot of debt out of the total $1000 every Kenyan owes. Even the IMF is freakishly worried about Kenya's debt for crying out loud. The Chinese will use unethical/unfair business practices to earn wealth from the west and then use it to recolonize developing countries while screwing over every other western country. Luckily, GEOTUS Trump will be able to stop this!

amaccuish 8y ago
> This is even worse. China will eat up the world in a similar way in which they ate up Sri-Lanka's port. Build a ton of infra for the developing world and then once they're unable to pay for it, they camp in your country forcibly. The US did exactly the same, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan.
- andromedavision 8y ago
  And yet I trust America's intentions more than China's. Going by track record alone, China's had a murderous regime that tortured and killed its own people by the millions. Wouldn't want them controlling my country that's for sure.
- ardy42 8y ago
  > The US did exactly the same, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan. The Marshall Plan was about rebuilding a bombed-out and destroyed Europe, and it actually did that. The countries that received aid needed it desperately, didn't end up trapped by debt, and afterward entered a period of high growth and prosperity. Except in the most superficial ways, it's not really comparable to the Belt and Road initiative.
- Spooky23 8y ago
  Are you referring to the concessions made by Germany & Italy for military basing, extraterritorial rights, etc? I don't think that was contingent on Marshall Plan aid. Those things are more to do with the victor taking the spoils. US policy here was more nuanced and recognized that an impoverished and devastated europe was ultimately a threat to peace.
  - ardy42 8y ago
    > Are you referring to the concessions made by Germany & Italy for military basing, extraterritorial rights, etc? If he's thinking of stuff like that, I think those had more to do with countries like West Germany not wanting to become countries like East Germany, due to a Soviet invasion.

amaccuish 8y ago

> This is even worse. China will eat up the world in a similar way in which they ate up Sri-Lanka's port. Build a ton of infra for the developing world and then once they're unable to pay for it, they camp in your country forcibly. The US did exactly the same, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan.

andromedavision 8y ago
And yet I trust America's intentions more than China's. Going by track record alone, China's had a murderous regime that tortured and killed its own people by the millions. Wouldn't want them controlling my country that's for sure.
ardy42 8y ago
> The US did exactly the same, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan. The Marshall Plan was about rebuilding a bombed-out and destroyed Europe, and it actually did that. The countries that received aid needed it desperately, didn't end up trapped by debt, and afterward entered a period of high growth and prosperity. Except in the most superficial ways, it's not really comparable to the Belt and Road initiative.
Spooky23 8y ago
Are you referring to the concessions made by Germany & Italy for military basing, extraterritorial rights, etc? I don't think that was contingent on Marshall Plan aid. Those things are more to do with the victor taking the spoils. US policy here was more nuanced and recognized that an impoverished and devastated europe was ultimately a threat to peace.
- ardy42 8y ago
  > Are you referring to the concessions made by Germany & Italy for military basing, extraterritorial rights, etc? If he's thinking of stuff like that, I think those had more to do with countries like West Germany not wanting to become countries like East Germany, due to a Soviet invasion.