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Side note... not related to the same root cause, but related to a similar end user problem... I've been staying in a lot of hotels lately and using a lot of ver

Side note... not related to the same root cause, but related to a similar end user problem... I've been staying in a lot of hotels lately and using a lot of very slow internet connections (not by choice, that's just what is available) and I wish Chrome had some sort of "low bandwidth" mode where it would only allow requests from your current tab, or maybe current window (easily open a new window to control which tabs could use bandwidth). That would make a big difference for us road warriors and nearly everyone when they're on vacation.

brucedawson 8y ago
Not a bad idea. Feel free to file a bug/suggestion at crbug.com, and I'll try to suggest such a tweak myself. We already do throttle hidden tabs, but I don't think we throttle their bandwidth usage directly. It is tricky, unfortunately.
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PhilippGille 8y ago
Vivaldi is based on Chrome and adds some poweruser features. For example you can hibernate tabs. In your case, right-click on the tab you want to use, select "hibernate background tabs", done. I think Chrome has a tab hibernation extension you could try as well.
dijit 8y ago
I was visiting the US for a conference recently (not defcon) and I bought a T-mobile tourist sim, great idea, cost me less than 1/3rd of what my normal sim would have cost; however they had a data cap at 2Gb before they aggressively throttled you. I was very conservative in my use (thank you hacker news for being data-light) but managed to reach the cap near the end of my stay; my girlfriend who has no concept of what is heavy and what isn’t reached the cap in less than 2 days - after which; mobile data was effectively useless for her. I can’t imagine what life is like for those who /live/ on data caps- I feel like most web developers don’t give a shit about how much resources they use, not just in terms of CPU/Memory (“lol, it’s 2018 buy a better pc!”) but also in terms of bandwidth; which is regularly out of user control.
- smcl 8y ago
  Vodafone CZ have this same aggressive throttling on their pre-pay monthly tariffs with the extremely annoying feature that if you run out of data it is basically impossible to top-up unless you're on wifi because they don't exclude Vodafone CZ sites or IP addresses from the throttling! It was even worse a few years back - once you had used your data allowance you had no way whatsoever to top up at all.
saltcured 8y ago
Ironically, I think people on slow connections were early pioneers of using tabs for asynchronous/background page loading. I don't remember where I learned the technique first, but when I was roaming the world and getting work done via GPRS internet, I'd open links in a new tab and let them slowly load in the background. I'd view the tab later and see the fully rendered content. It would absolutely kill this use case if the tabs would not perform their necessary AJAX calls until foregrounded. For those not familiar with GPRS of those times, imagine a 9600-14.4 modem speed but with the latency of a satellite connection, so with almost any activity you start seeing 1 second ping times. Even when on ridiculously fast connections, I still retain the muscle memory which causes me to browse in breadth-first mode, opening articles and discussions into tabs in one sweep and then working through the tab list from left to right and closing each as I go.
- bonestamp2 8y ago
  Yes, that's funny. I guess for me it's when I open my browser to do something quickly, but can't do it quickly because I have to wait for all those tabs to load first.
reitanqild 8y ago
Firefox has some extensions that do kind of similar things, but the one I loved disappeared in the move to multiprocess.
wscott 8y ago
This one seems promising: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/built-in-lazy-loading-lands-in-google-chrome-canary/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/built-in-lazy-l...

brucedawson 8y ago

Not a bad idea. Feel free to file a bug/suggestion at crbug.com, and I'll try to suggest such a tweak myself. We already do throttle hidden tabs, but I don't think we throttle their bandwidth usage directly. It is tricky, unfortunately.

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PhilippGille 8y ago

Vivaldi is based on Chrome and adds some poweruser features. For example you can hibernate tabs. In your case, right-click on the tab you want to use, select "hibernate background tabs", done. I think Chrome has a tab hibernation extension you could try as well.

dijit 8y ago

I was visiting the US for a conference recently (not defcon) and I bought a T-mobile tourist sim, great idea, cost me less than 1/3rd of what my normal sim would have cost; however they had a data cap at 2Gb before they aggressively throttled you. I was very conservative in my use (thank you hacker news for being data-light) but managed to reach the cap near the end of my stay; my girlfriend who has no concept of what is heavy and what isn’t reached the cap in less than 2 days - after which; mobile data was effectively useless for her. I can’t imagine what life is like for those who /live/ on data caps- I feel like most web developers don’t give a shit about how much resources they use, not just in terms of CPU/Memory (“lol, it’s 2018 buy a better pc!”) but also in terms of bandwidth; which is regularly out of user control.

smcl 8y ago
Vodafone CZ have this same aggressive throttling on their pre-pay monthly tariffs with the extremely annoying feature that if you run out of data it is basically impossible to top-up unless you're on wifi because they don't exclude Vodafone CZ sites or IP addresses from the throttling! It was even worse a few years back - once you had used your data allowance you had no way whatsoever to top up at all.

saltcured 8y ago

Ironically, I think people on slow connections were early pioneers of using tabs for asynchronous/background page loading. I don't remember where I learned the technique first, but when I was roaming the world and getting work done via GPRS internet, I'd open links in a new tab and let them slowly load in the background. I'd view the tab later and see the fully rendered content. It would absolutely kill this use case if the tabs would not perform their necessary AJAX calls until foregrounded. For those not familiar with GPRS of those times, imagine a 9600-14.4 modem speed but with the latency of a satellite connection, so with almost any activity you start seeing 1 second ping times. Even when on ridiculously fast connections, I still retain the muscle memory which causes me to browse in breadth-first mode, opening articles and discussions into tabs in one sweep and then working through the tab list from left to right and closing each as I go.

bonestamp2 8y ago
Yes, that's funny. I guess for me it's when I open my browser to do something quickly, but can't do it quickly because I have to wait for all those tabs to load first.

reitanqild 8y ago

Firefox has some extensions that do kind of similar things, but the one I loved disappeared in the move to multiprocess.

wscott 8y ago

This one seems promising: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/built-in-lazy-loading-lands-in-google-chrome-canary/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/built-in-lazy-l...