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Google, by their own admission, was supporting totalitarianism in censoring search results before they decided to stop doing so several years ago. I don't see w

by nrb 8y ago

Google, by their own admission, was supporting totalitarianism in censoring search results before they decided to stop doing so several years ago. I don't see what Microsoft has to do with holding Google to their own self-established standard of ethics.

iforgotpassword 8y ago
So you're buying into the story that they only pulled out of China because they didn't want to support censorship anymore. That was merely a PR stunt since they knew that's what would resonate well with Americans or the west in general.* But even then, you're saying that you're totally fine with Microsoft doing this just because they never made a statement saying they don't like censorship? Imo one should judge companies by ones own convictions, at least when it's about fundamental believes of what is right or wrong. I guess I still don't get it. * (primarily because cn gov requested extensive access to their infrastructure, claims of attempted or partially successful break-in attempts, etc. When they ceased all censorship in China the decision was already made to leave, it was just for show.)
- nrb 8y ago
  I never commented on the behavior of Microsoft because they have nothing to do with the topic at hand: Google being held to a standard that THEY established when they said they were getting out of China (at least partially) because of ongoing censorship.
  - iforgotpassword 8y ago
    Ok I get that part. Still, Microsoft is in the same business doing the same things, so to me it would have been natural if it would have been brought up in this context. Just like when there's a post about a new Chrome feature, people start comparing it to Firefox, or when an article about a political decision of country X is posted, people start comparing it to the situation in countries Y and Z.

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Google, by their own admission, was supporting totalitarianism in censoring search results before they decided to stop doing so several years ago. I don't see w

by nrb 8y ago

iforgotpassword 8y ago
So you're buying into the story that they only pulled out of China because they didn't want to support censorship anymore. That was merely a PR stunt since they knew that's what would resonate well with Americans or the west in general.* But even then, you're saying that you're totally fine with Microsoft doing this just because they never made a statement saying they don't like censorship? Imo one should judge companies by ones own convictions, at least when it's about fundamental believes of what is right or wrong. I guess I still don't get it. * (primarily because cn gov requested extensive access to their infrastructure, claims of attempted or partially successful break-in attempts, etc. When they ceased all censorship in China the decision was already made to leave, it was just for show.)
- nrb 8y ago
  I never commented on the behavior of Microsoft because they have nothing to do with the topic at hand: Google being held to a standard that THEY established when they said they were getting out of China (at least partially) because of ongoing censorship.
  - iforgotpassword 8y ago
    Ok I get that part. Still, Microsoft is in the same business doing the same things, so to me it would have been natural if it would have been brought up in this context. Just like when there's a post about a new Chrome feature, people start comparing it to Firefox, or when an article about a political decision of country X is posted, people start comparing it to the situation in countries Y and Z.