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Here is the passport index global ranking: https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php Never occurred to me that Greece

Here is the passport index global ranking: https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php Never occurred to me that Greece would be so high in the list :-)

xaranke 8y ago
This is mostly because of inclusion in EU; the EU is able to negotiate visa policies for their citizens as a block instead of individually.
- nraynaud 8y ago
  it's even mandatory, bilateral treaties are mostly forbidden.
  - xaranke 8y ago
    I'm not so sure, IIRC Polish and Romanian citizens need a visa for visiting the US even though they are both EU members and US citizens are allowed to visit both visa-free.
  - bkor 8y ago
    This should not be downvoted. In practice it's not the case. However, EU negotiates on behalf of EU, not individual countries. Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/us-nationals-to-be-forced-to-apply-to-visas-eu-reciprocity/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/us-nationals-to-be-f... Quote: "Americans should be forced to apply for visas to travel to Europe, the European Parliament has said, in response to Washington refusing to allow all Europeans to travel to the States visa-free."
- andybak 8y ago
  Oh great. Another thing to look forward to after Brexit. As a Brit I'm really hoping Jacob Rees Mogg has a few disastrous holiday visa experiences in his near future.
  - wholien 8y ago
    doesn't the UK negotiate its own visa situations with other countries? For example, it's opted out of of Schengen (along with Ireland). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_the_United_King...
darklajid 8y ago
As a German in Singapore: The girlfriend (local) and me banter a lot about this.. She brought it up initially and is quite proud of the 'passport power', sometimes it shifts and Germany ends up equal or rarely above and I can prod her a bit.. :) For me posts like the submission here are eye opening and completely new.
Grue3 8y ago
Interesting how Taiwan passport is more powerful than PRC, even though Taiwan doesn't really have any embassies.

Here is the passport index global ranking: https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php Never occurred to me that Greece would be so high in the list :-)

xaranke 8y ago

This is mostly because of inclusion in EU; the EU is able to negotiate visa policies for their citizens as a block instead of individually.

nraynaud 8y ago
it's even mandatory, bilateral treaties are mostly forbidden.
- xaranke 8y ago
  I'm not so sure, IIRC Polish and Romanian citizens need a visa for visiting the US even though they are both EU members and US citizens are allowed to visit both visa-free.
- bkor 8y ago
  This should not be downvoted. In practice it's not the case. However, EU negotiates on behalf of EU, not individual countries. Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/us-nationals-to-be-forced-to-apply-to-visas-eu-reciprocity/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/us-nationals-to-be-f... Quote: "Americans should be forced to apply for visas to travel to Europe, the European Parliament has said, in response to Washington refusing to allow all Europeans to travel to the States visa-free."
andybak 8y ago
Oh great. Another thing to look forward to after Brexit. As a Brit I'm really hoping Jacob Rees Mogg has a few disastrous holiday visa experiences in his near future.
- wholien 8y ago
  doesn't the UK negotiate its own visa situations with other countries? For example, it's opted out of of Schengen (along with Ireland). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_the_United_King...

darklajid 8y ago

As a German in Singapore: The girlfriend (local) and me banter a lot about this.. She brought it up initially and is quite proud of the 'passport power', sometimes it shifts and Germany ends up equal or rarely above and I can prod her a bit.. :) For me posts like the submission here are eye opening and completely new.

Grue3 8y ago

Interesting how Taiwan passport is more powerful than PRC, even though Taiwan doesn't really have any embassies.