I feel like rhetorical analysis should be a more common school topic and area of academic work. I want to spend more time talking about what a productive discus

I feel like rhetorical analysis should be a more common school topic and area of academic work. I want to spend more time talking about what a productive discussion looks like and what actually counts as evidence. You are describing a difference of definition. The solution is to define your terms better. When we agree on definitions, we can more on to discussing what our core disagreement is and people should be able to recognize what counts as evidence for that. I think this is well worn territory but seems culturally lost today.