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I have to say, this article's thesis is not "Stop Hiring for Culture Fit" and more "These are good hiring practices have have worked for me." The title seems to

by moate 8y ago

I have to say, this article's thesis is not "Stop Hiring for Culture Fit" and more "These are good hiring practices have have worked for me." The title seems to be "How To Hire" with a broad focus. "Culture fit" is mentioned literally once. I know that's the HBR pagename for it, but it's a terrible title.

bradlys 8y ago
I'm not sure how many people here read the article. This article should be named, "Anecdotes about being chief talent officer at Netflix".
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asdfman123 8y ago
"I've been successful in my career for various reasons, some of which I may have no control over. Here's an article I wrote as a way to bolster my reputation. Also, we like hiring people who are musicians, because it worked well with this one guy."
- moate 8y ago
  Have you ever read Moneyball by Michael Lewis? It's about how a baseball team in the early 2000's took a look at market inefficiencies and used it to put together a great team for real cheap. It's like, how is it possible that a multi-billion dollar league was so unable to figure out their hiring process/talent assessment? They have reams of performance data and just needed to apply analysts to it. Whenever people start talking about the best ways to hire, I generally just start thinking about Moneyball and game theory and how most people are just making shit up with no clue why they're succeeding or failing. Every success story is equal parts "I worked real hard" and "There are far too many variables/luck for me to ever possibly be able to account for them objectively" but everyone like to put a narrative on it and be a hero (or cast someone as a villain).
  - asdfman123 8y ago
    Ego gets in the way of data. The hiring process is set up primarily to make the hiring party feel smart and powerful, so it's hard to break out of that and realize you don't really know much. But it's incredible that it's so prevalent in tech, where people are supposedly so smart and data driven.
    - paulriddle 8y ago
      Not only ego. Other people too. Have you tried acting without ego? It might piss some people off, because it will expose them. Right in their smug faces. They will see how free you are and then look at themselves and become MAD. Assuming you can act confident without ego. Most of the time you don't even have the social skills to put forth an opinion in a charismatic way. Weak voice, weak body language, stuttering, stumbling over your words, unsteady eye contact, failure to make people laugh and feel at ease. Bam, you lost. Made fool of youself. If you have no ego, you learn and carry on. It is difficult to do.
      - asdfman123 8y ago
        Acting with true humility rarely pisses anyone off. Ego and insecurity are two separate things. You can mask insecurity with a big ego (and people often do that), but you can also be calm, confident and assertive sans ego if you're comfortable with yourself.

by moate 8y ago

bradlys 8y ago

I'm not sure how many people here read the article. This article should be named, "Anecdotes about being chief talent officer at Netflix".

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asdfman123 8y ago

"I've been successful in my career for various reasons, some of which I may have no control over. Here's an article I wrote as a way to bolster my reputation. Also, we like hiring people who are musicians, because it worked well with this one guy."

moate 8y ago
Have you ever read Moneyball by Michael Lewis? It's about how a baseball team in the early 2000's took a look at market inefficiencies and used it to put together a great team for real cheap. It's like, how is it possible that a multi-billion dollar league was so unable to figure out their hiring process/talent assessment? They have reams of performance data and just needed to apply analysts to it. Whenever people start talking about the best ways to hire, I generally just start thinking about Moneyball and game theory and how most people are just making shit up with no clue why they're succeeding or failing. Every success story is equal parts "I worked real hard" and "There are far too many variables/luck for me to ever possibly be able to account for them objectively" but everyone like to put a narrative on it and be a hero (or cast someone as a villain).
- asdfman123 8y ago
  Ego gets in the way of data. The hiring process is set up primarily to make the hiring party feel smart and powerful, so it's hard to break out of that and realize you don't really know much. But it's incredible that it's so prevalent in tech, where people are supposedly so smart and data driven.
  - paulriddle 8y ago
    Not only ego. Other people too. Have you tried acting without ego? It might piss some people off, because it will expose them. Right in their smug faces. They will see how free you are and then look at themselves and become MAD. Assuming you can act confident without ego. Most of the time you don't even have the social skills to put forth an opinion in a charismatic way. Weak voice, weak body language, stuttering, stumbling over your words, unsteady eye contact, failure to make people laugh and feel at ease. Bam, you lost. Made fool of youself. If you have no ego, you learn and carry on. It is difficult to do.
    - asdfman123 8y ago
      Acting with true humility rarely pisses anyone off. Ego and insecurity are two separate things. You can mask insecurity with a big ego (and people often do that), but you can also be calm, confident and assertive sans ego if you're comfortable with yourself.