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"Currently Unblockable" Unless you don't allow jerberscript. Which blocks all of them. Hyperbole, much?

by fake-name 8y ago

benbristow 8y ago
Don't allow 'jerberscript' and don't expect the web to work properly. Simple as.
- wwweston 8y ago
  If it doesn't work w/o js, it's not actually the web, the de facto truth of your statement notwithstanding. It's an eminently defensible descriptive statement; the trend is certainly away from building the web and towards treating the browser as the VM to rule them all. It is not a particularly well-defensible normative statement.
  - jrockway 8y ago
    I don't know if I agree that. It's pretty standardized. Every user-agent includes it. You can give people documents without scripts, but it's not mandatory for them to work. And it's not like Javascript is some obscure single-vendor extension, it's widely supported.
- zeveb 8y ago
  The web works perfectly well without JavaScript: HTML still displays text & images fine, links still work properly &c.. Now, a whole host of things which aren't the web will break, but honestly that's okay.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
    Do you honestly never buy anything online?
    - zeveb 8y ago
      You can buy things online just fine without JavaScript. Forms have been around for ages, and require no client-side code (they do require server-side smarts, and for security they require encryption).
      - jjeaff 8y ago
        The only real way to do that is to store the session variable in the URL. And that comes with its own host of issues. People are going to be pissed when they load up their cart and then follow some bookmark they created for a product on your site to add it to the cart, only to find the cart empty.
        zeveb 8y ago
        > The only real way to do that is to store the session variable in the URL. And that comes with its own host of issues. There are also cookies, which have their own host of issues. As does JavaScript, as does anything else, really.

"Currently Unblockable" Unless you don't allow jerberscript. Which blocks all of them. Hyperbole, much?

benbristow 8y ago

Don't allow 'jerberscript' and don't expect the web to work properly. Simple as.

wwweston 8y ago
If it doesn't work w/o js, it's not actually the web, the de facto truth of your statement notwithstanding. It's an eminently defensible descriptive statement; the trend is certainly away from building the web and towards treating the browser as the VM to rule them all. It is not a particularly well-defensible normative statement.
- jrockway 8y ago
  I don't know if I agree that. It's pretty standardized. Every user-agent includes it. You can give people documents without scripts, but it's not mandatory for them to work. And it's not like Javascript is some obscure single-vendor extension, it's widely supported.
zeveb 8y ago
The web works perfectly well without JavaScript: HTML still displays text & images fine, links still work properly &c.. Now, a whole host of things which aren't the web will break, but honestly that's okay.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  Do you honestly never buy anything online?
  - zeveb 8y ago
    You can buy things online just fine without JavaScript. Forms have been around for ages, and require no client-side code (they do require server-side smarts, and for security they require encryption).
    - jjeaff 8y ago
      The only real way to do that is to store the session variable in the URL. And that comes with its own host of issues. People are going to be pissed when they load up their cart and then follow some bookmark they created for a product on your site to add it to the cart, only to find the cart empty.
      - zeveb 8y ago
        > The only real way to do that is to store the session variable in the URL. And that comes with its own host of issues. There are also cookies, which have their own host of issues. As does JavaScript, as does anything else, really.